Hawk trainer incident Anglesey
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Just been show footage of two pilots ejecting after taking off from RAF valley Anglesey.
Local information is both pilots are okay.
Im sure video will be shared widely shortly.
EDIT footage (Facebook unfortunately)
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19c6BEkviJ/?mibex...
While it looks like an issue with pitch control. I’ve read a plane spotter saying they saw flames from engine on take off and was already in trouble.
Edited by CaiosH on Wednesday 23 September 14:56
Looks like classic engine failure to me. Looking for options, talking it through and then deciding to get out of the aircraft. The pitch up is classic pre-ejection zoom to get any altitude they can - but obviously at that low speed they used the last of their energy already so it didnt gain them much. Hopefully both ok.
I am sure FJP will know who it is.
I am sure FJP will know who it is.
gotoPzero said:
Just watching again the front seater had a terrible ejection sequence. Hopefully he is ok.
Both with minor injuries thankfully.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq62k1947l7po
Mammasaid said:
gotoPzero said:
Just watching again the front seater had a terrible ejection sequence. Hopefully he is ok.
Both with minor injuries thankfully.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq62k1947l7po
Jim H said:
Wow, that is dramatic footage. Glad the crew ok. I ve only just watched the video now once. A couple of large puffs out of the jet pipe. Maybe sucked in a bird or two?
Yeah, at that height not much time for a restart. No doubt it will be picked up by the usual YT channels for commentary soon.Given how close to camera, there no discernable engine noise at start of video, so I think the donk had already quit before the start of the video.
Supposed engine fire just after take off, and maybe was trying to return to airfield, but, at that height once it goes silent at the back, its time to get out sharpish.
Looking at the flashes of fire at side of fuselage on its decent after ejection, you have to wonder if the engine fire was contained in the fuselage and had burned through the controls hence the sharp pitch up.......like so many BAC Lightnings met their demise in the early days after fuel fires in the engine bay.
Supposed engine fire just after take off, and maybe was trying to return to airfield, but, at that height once it goes silent at the back, its time to get out sharpish.
Looking at the flashes of fire at side of fuselage on its decent after ejection, you have to wonder if the engine fire was contained in the fuselage and had burned through the controls hence the sharp pitch up.......like so many BAC Lightnings met their demise in the early days after fuel fires in the engine bay.
Just seen the new video posted of it streaming fire from the fuselage side about 2 or 3 secs after starting its take off roll.........
Surprised runway van or tower didn't advise to reject TO seeing they had only just started rolling when the flames burst out......
Engine was still working for duration of the clip, so fuel system fire rather than engine failure I'd guess......
It looked well before V1, so as soon as they left the ground they were going to have to eject......surprised they didn't point it out to sea and bang out?
Surprised runway van or tower didn't advise to reject TO seeing they had only just started rolling when the flames burst out......
Engine was still working for duration of the clip, so fuel system fire rather than engine failure I'd guess......
It looked well before V1, so as soon as they left the ground they were going to have to eject......surprised they didn't point it out to sea and bang out?
Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 23 September 21:35
BrettMRC said:
What could lead to that sort of failure on the.ground though, while still giving good fuel flow into the engine?
Its just so reminiscent of all those Lightning fuel leak fires in the engine bay that burnt through the control cables and needing to get out before control was lost.........engines still running in many cases.I don’t know the Hawk’s direction of travel but possibly they were heading to Mona rather than back to Valley. I’ve been to Valley a few times, always felt like a good place with people working hard to keep the small number of aircraft operational, they used to get through a fair few sorties per day
aeropilot said:
Just seen the new video posted of it streaming fire from the fuselage side about 2 or 3 secs after starting its take off roll.........
My understanding is the Hawk is equipped with an audible fire warning so something odd has happened to have visible flame before v1 and no warning.Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff