Ulster Orange Parade to go Ahead

[The Mad Monk]

At a court hearing at 2.15 a.m. permission was given for the parade to go ahead.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckjrxx22wqgdo

[MiniMan64]

Rolling back the years, like being back in the 90s.

fking orange men

[ChevronB19]

Based on live stream from the BBC, there seems to be a very light police presence for what could turn into an extremely serious situation.

I can only assume there’s a lot of land rovers hidden round a few nearby corners.

[MiniMan64]

ChevronB19 said:

Based on live stream from the BBC, there seems to be a very light police presence for what could turn into an extremely serious situation.

I can only assume there s a lot of land rovers hidden round a few nearby corners.

There will be somewhere but they won’t want to escalate. The orange men are outnumbered and unless their rabble turn up it’ll stay that way. The locals won’t be moving though so they’ll be no march today.

I just don’t understand why the parades commission has reopened this mess after all these years.

[The Mad Monk]

MiniMan64 said:

I just don t understand why the parades commission has reopened this mess after all these years.

I just don't understand why anybody would worry about some men walking to/from church. If that's what they want to do, why worry about it?

[Mr Penguin]

I don't really understand why these are so controversial or important to the people who do them but it's funny to see Sinn Fein setting up a road block, just like old times.

[vaud]

Mr Penguin said:

just like old times.

“ we will not sit down with people who sit down with people who sit down with people who sit down with people who sit down with people who sit down with terrorists”

Was the satirical line IIRC

[MiniMan64]

The Mad Monk said:

MiniMan64 said:

I just don t understand why the parades commission has reopened this mess after all these years.

I just don't understand why anybody would worry about some men walking to/from church. If that's what they want to do, why worry about it?

Plenty of other routes they could walk and they really dot need to walk at all. It’s a predominantly nationalist area, there’s really no need.

Currently the most helpful thing is the Northern Irish weather. When this usually happens on the 12th it’s a bit warmer and everyone kicks off in the sunshine.

[Mr Penguin]

MiniMan64 said:

Plenty of other routes they could walk and they really dot need to walk at all. It s a predominantly nationalist area, there s really no need.

Why shouldn't Protestants be able to walk in a Catholic area, whether they have cars or not?

[Halmyre]

MiniMan64 said:

Rolling back the years, like being back in the 90s.

fking orange men

Yes, the 1690s.

[GAjon]

Divide and conquer.

[redrabbit29]

Mr Penguin said:

MiniMan64 said:

Plenty of other routes they could walk and they really dot need to walk at all. It s a predominantly nationalist area, there s really no need.

Why shouldn't Protestants be able to walk in a Catholic area, whether they have cars or not?

It's antagonistic and unnecessary in this context. It's not a walk as you're making out - you're being disingenuous. It's aan organised march, with colours, flags, music. The fact it's not happened and has opposition shows that.

I take no sides but it just seems unnecessary and as someone from Northern Irish descent, many are sick of communities continually just causing issues like this

It's tit-for-tat with stuff like this. I fully expect some kind of riotting as usual

[Wacky Racer]

Mr Penguin said:

MiniMan64 said:

Plenty of other routes they could walk and they really dot need to walk at all. It s a predominantly nationalist area, there s really no need.

Why shouldn't Protestants be able to walk in a Catholic area, whether they have cars or not?

They should, and visa-versa.

However, it's Ulster, and this nonsense has been going on hundreds of years, and is not going to stop anytime soon.

[MC Bodge]

Mr Penguin said:

Why shouldn't Protestants be able to walk in a Catholic area, whether they have cars or not?

And so The Troubles continue.

[The Mad Monk]

Mr Penguin said:

Why shouldn't Protestants be able to walk in a Catholic area, whether they have cars or not?

What have the cars got to do with anything?

[MC Bodge]

My Granddad's family took part in nonsense like this is Liverpool in the early 20th century.

He could see how ridiculous it was and wanted nothing to do with it.

His view was that all of the working class people were poor and it was just silly tribalism that suited the rich dock and factory owners.

Antagonising and fighting with people who's ancestors followed a slightly different version of the same religion?
Ridiculous.

The people of NI can now identify as Irish or British, there is no need for silly, antagonistic, marches.

[Mr Penguin]

redrabbit29 said:

It's antagonistic and unnecessary in this context. It's not a walk as you're making out - you're being disingenuous. It's aan organised march, with colours, flags, music. The fact it's not happened and has opposition shows that.

I take no sides but it just seems unnecessary and as someone from Northern Irish descent, many are sick of communities continually just causing issues like this

It's tit-for-tat with stuff like this. I fully expect some kind of riotting as usual

OK, the piccolos are a bit annoying, but no different to the chav at the end of my lane playing rap music from his car stereo at full blast. So why shouldn't a Protestant be able to play his annoying music around Catholics without the political wing of the IRA setting up a road block and its leader saying 'It brings into question how the peace process works'?

[MiniMan64]

Mr Penguin said:

MiniMan64 said:

Plenty of other routes they could walk and they really dot need to walk at all. It s a predominantly nationalist area, there s really no need.

Why shouldn't Protestants be able to walk in a Catholic area, whether they have cars or not?

If it was that simple than Northern Ireland, Israel, Gaza and every other religious mess in the world wouldn't be an issue..

[MC Bodge]

Mr Penguin said:

OK, the piccolos are a bit annoying, but no different to the chav at the end of my lane playing rap music from his car stereo at full blast. So why shouldn't a Protestant be able to play his annoying music around Catholics without the political wing of the IRA setting up a road block and its leader saying 'It brings into question how the peace process works'?

Er, ok.

How about that they just don't do it?

[Mr Penguin]

MC Bodge said:

Er, ok.

How about that they just don't do it?

I don't think there should be no go areas in the UK - as above, a Protestant should be able to go into a Catholic area and vice versa without being threatened, intimidated, or attacked. I'm happy to hear a good reason why this shouldn't be the case.