RE: Jaguar XE S | Spotted
RE: Jaguar XE S | Spotted
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Jaguar XE S | Spotted

Remember when Jaguar also had a six-cylinder 3 Series rival? Now it's £10k


A lot of British car magazines would have struggled for front pages over the years without new baby Jag speculation. Sometimes it felt like barely a month would pass without another set of grainy spy images splashed across the cover, a breathless editorial and noncommittal PR quote that would be construed as something that it wasn’t. Then there actually was a new baby Jag, in 2015, and that really was something very exciting indeed. 

Because the XE immediately banished all bad memories of the X-Type. There was only six years between the last Xs and the first XEs, though they could hardly have been more different: rear-wheel drive now, handsome and confident to look at, with a cool and contemporary interior. 

The XE was the ideal foil for the BMW 3 Series in a way that the X-Type never could have been. It still wasn’t the obvious choice, but it didn’t have to rely on buyers supporting the home team for sales - it was genuinely very good. As well as the design and dynamics, there was a wide variety of powertrains, mostly all hooked up to the impressive ZF eight-speeder. 

To really rival the BMW, however, the XE needed a six-cylinder - and got it from launch. Once more any association with the X didn’t last long, a supercharger bringing another 100-odd horsepower and performance in a different league. The 3.0-litre XE S was everything you’d want a small Jag saloon to be: fast, great to listen to, engaging to drive and obviously a whole lot more efficient than having a V8 in there. 

Trouble was that all the six-cylinder alternatives, be they the BMW 340i, Audi S4 or Mercedes C43, were all very good as well. The same engine was also offered in the larger XF S, and so the supercharged XE never sold in enormous quantities. This one is the only example we can find on PH (there are dozens of the Germans, of course), and handily it’s also the cheapest we’ve seen at £10,990. 

It’s one of the later XEs that benefitted from 380hp, which should be enough for a five-second dash to 62mph (as well as almost 35mpg on the old NEDC test). There are a fair few miles under its smart wheels (and mismatched tyres) at 90,000, but the condition would suggest it’s been gentle use: there isn’t much bolster wear, the plastics are good and the paint looks better than average. 

Oh sure, the interior leather has gone shiny and the headlights are cloudy, but that’s nothing a day in the garage couldn’t sort. Fundamentally it looks in pretty good nick; more important is the claim of a full service history and all the standard kit, including heated seats and a sunroof. Nav is included also, though the less said about JLR infotainment of the time, the better. Factor in a head unit replacement and away you go.

Last time we wrote about a 3.0-litre XE it was more than twice the money with a quarter of the miles. It would be fair to say that the Jag hasn’t enjoyed the best reliability record (shock), but the powertrain problems are well known by now. And you’d have to hope that in almost 10 years and 100,000 miles of driving a few flaws will have been addressed. Without a new baby Jag coming anytime soon, there’s surely no better opportunity to try the best.


SPECIFICATION | JAGUAR XE S

Engine: 2,995cc, supercharged V6
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 380@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 332@4,500rpm
MPG: 34.9
CO2: 194g/km
First registered: 2017
Recorded mileage: 90,327
Price new: £48,045 (2018)
Yours for: £10,990

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Bloodmanos

Original Poster:

2 posts

1 month

Yesterday (11:08)
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I bought one of these 3 years ago for £21k it had 19k miles on it and all factory options ticked aside from heated steering wheel and colour changing interior lights.
For the money I could have bought a semi ropey 90k+ miles German saloon of similar spec and power and would have spend money fixing the higher mileage problems that they would have come with.

As it stands, coming up to 37k miles I've paid for new tyres, brakes and a coolant bottle because it had a hairline crack the MOT history is and always has been a clear pass, not a single advisory and I get to hear a supercharged V6 every time I go out.
People st on these cars but I think the value is there, for me atleast.

Venisonpie

4,829 posts

112 months

Yesterday (11:28)
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Bloodmanos said:
I bought one of these 3 years ago for £21k it had 19k miles on it and all factory options ticked aside from heated steering wheel and colour changing interior lights.
For the money I could have bought a semi ropey 90k+ miles German saloon of similar spec and power and would have spend money fixing the higher mileage problems that they would have come with.

As it stands, coming up to 37k miles I've paid for new tyres, brakes and a coolant bottle because it had a hairline crack the MOT history is and always has been a clear pass, not a single advisory and I get to hear a supercharged V6 every time I go out.
People st on these cars but I think the value is there, for me atleast.
They look very temping to me, being only 5'6" I don't think the dimensions will be a problem.

v8notbrave

745 posts

43 months

Yesterday (11:28)
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Actually looks a good shout, well done PH and I like the journo latitude, it's 11k, not 10k. Maybe a wee offer but as the cheapest you won't get far

Would sound great, go well etc. however having looked at f types there are quite a few 3.0s with rebuilt engines, timing chains needed etc also slightly dubious of a nigh in 10 year old car British build quality

Bloodmanos

Original Poster:

2 posts

1 month

Yesterday (11:36)
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Usually the rebuilds are from overheating, they have the same plastic coolant pipework as the V8's that run between the very hot engine and the very hot supercharger, they tend to not leak at all but explode over enough heat cycles.
They can have timing issues but it's far less common on the V6/V8 AJ engines compared to the Ingenium 4 cylinder engine Jags

Edited by Bloodmanos on Wednesday 30th September 11:50

smilo996

3,836 posts

200 months

Yesterday (11:37)
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The last time Jaguar moved on from boring design of the X and S type. Massive success.

disco666

681 posts

176 months

Yesterday (12:45)
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Just the bland styling puts me off these.

skylarking808

1,217 posts

116 months

Yesterday (13:36)
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Neighbour has one and quite likes it - when its working. He has spent the last day or two underneath it trying to sort a sensor/electrics issue.


HazzaT

656 posts

75 months

Yesterday (15:28)
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Had mine a year now. Had some issues initially but it's a lovely car to drive, just as happy on a cruise as it is when you get your toe down. For a small sports saloon you really can't fault it.

Looking forward to getting the pulleys done at some point for 450bhp cool

Triumph Man

9,593 posts

198 months

Yesterday (16:32)
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Always liked these - a shame that you could only get a manual transmission with some of the 4 pot donkey engines. Temptingly cheap as well...

Bloody ULEZ

73 posts

48 months

Yesterday (17:13)
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I like these, for the money.
Lots of character, esp with something like a Quicksilver exhaust.
All for the price of a Track Pack on a Project 8.

GeniusOfLove

5,766 posts

42 months

Yesterday (17:20)
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Bloodmanos said:
Usually the rebuilds are from overheating, they have the same plastic coolant pipework as the V8's that run between the very hot engine and the very hot supercharger, they tend to not leak at all but explode over enough heat cycles.
They can have timing issues but it's far less common on the V6/V8 AJ engines compared to the Ingenium 4 cylinder engine Jags

Edited by Bloodmanos on Wednesday 30th September 11:50
Same as the later 5.0 supercharged cars, the earlier ones had aluminium pipes so didn't suffer from this issue.

Everyone I know with a later 5.0 SC car has had those pipes let go, I think you'd want to get them replaced immediately.

FWIW the NASP 5.0 had plastic pipes from the off and they let go on those too.


cerb4.5lee

44,641 posts

210 months

Yesterday (17:31)
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I've always liked these, but I did feel a bit sorry for them at the time, because everyone seemed to buy one of it's rivals instead of this though. It deserved more success I reckon, and I always thought the KIA Stinger fell into a similar trap as well.

GeniusOfLove

5,766 posts

42 months

Yesterday (17:39)
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First of all I should state that I really, really dislike the styling of both the X and S Type.

But...

I think you could argue that they were, in a way, more successful designs than the utterly bland XE and 2nd gen XF because although 999 people out of 1000 thought they looked revolting, that 1 in 1000 though they looked absolutely fabulous to the point they wanted one and they were their absolute 1st choice when they came to buy a car of that type.

Almost nobody absolutely loved the styling of the XE and X260 XF, blandly handsome though they are, so they ended up being everyone's 3rd choice, maybe 2nd at best, which is a shame because they are superb cars to drive even if most of them have a crap engine and the interiors ranged from uninspired to "what on earth were they thinking" two tone monstrosities.

They are looking better with age though, a typical calm and rational Callum era design that looks positively serene next to the shouting noise of most new cars.

CM954

540 posts

215 months

Yesterday (17:58)
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Is it just me or does that sunroof look like it will be damaged/misaligned the first time you go over a decent bump with it open?

AnotherHamster

116 posts

101 months

Yesterday (18:03)
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I thought the later cars with the 380bhp engine got the larger upgraded screen and more powerful entertainment system. This seems to have the original which was criticised for being slow with poor resolution.

NGK210

4,996 posts

175 months

Yesterday (18:13)
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I feel sorry for Ian Callum, he penned some elegant and graceful-looking cars, only for the underskin cost-cutting to taint his work.

Re. the s/c V8’s plastic coolant pipe probs – does anyone know if this also affects post-2021 (ie, facelift) F-pace SVRs? Ta.

nismo48

7,058 posts

237 months

Yesterday (18:31)
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CM954 said:
Is it just me or does that sunroof look like it will be damaged/misaligned the first time you go over a decent bump with it open?
Plenty of "decent" potholes that could shatter that glass.

fantheman80

2,614 posts

79 months

Yesterday (18:59)
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I watched misha smash one of these around the ring only last night. It sounded great and didnt hang about (different tyres and some failure caused a change of pants though)

86wasagoodyear

982 posts

126 months

Yesterday (21:49)
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smilo996 said:
The last time Jaguar moved on from boring design of the X and S type. Massive success.
Indeed, the biggest tragedy for me being that this is basically what the X-Type should've looked like in the 90s to go up against the E36-E46, the 1st gen A4, and the first C-class. I blame Jag's management for being a load of cloth-eared ruddy cheeked old fuddy duddies.

MattsCar

2,425 posts

135 months

Yesterday (22:08)
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fantheman80 said:
I watched misha smash one of these around the ring only last night. It sounded great and didnt hang about (different tyres and some failure caused a change of pants though)
One of the tyres was an all season tyre...on the same axle as a summer. In fact all 4 tyres were completely different brands.

Should not have gone out in that car. He should know better.

Apparently a coolant leak caused that mishap.