Death Row Inmate Survives 2 Lethal Injections
Discussion
Her legal team managed to get the procedure stopped after she'd had 2 lots of Pentobarbital and was then heard snoring.
For some reason I've now got an image of a Tennessee sheriff going "%^*& it" and putting a bullet in her. Frankly, that would have been more civilised.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8r6rjdvlx6o
For some reason I've now got an image of a Tennessee sheriff going "%^*& it" and putting a bullet in her. Frankly, that would have been more civilised.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8r6rjdvlx6o
mondayo said:
they refuse to accept that as mitigating circumstances.
She tortured a girl for over an hour, cut a pentagram in to her chest with a stanley knife while she was alive and finally smashed her head in with a piece of asphalt keeping part of the skull as a trophy which she showed to people.There isn't any mitigating circumstances.
Sheets Tabuer said:
mondayo said:
they refuse to accept that as mitigating circumstances.
She tortured a girl for over an hour, cut a pentagram in to her chest with a stanley knife while she was alive and finally smashed her head in with a piece of asphalt keeping part of the skull as a trophy which she showed to people.There isn't any mitigating circumstances.
I’m not forgiving her dreadful crime, but there definitely are mitigating circumstances.
As for the botched execution, this is state sponsored cruel and unusual punishment.
I think this is one of those multiple things can be true at the same time ones isn't it?
- What she did is horrific.
- Personally I'm not a fan of the death penalty.
- If they executed her I wouldn't lose any sleep after what she did.
- If they're going to execute people just do it properly.
Scrubs said:
Her legal team managed to get the procedure stopped after she'd had 2 lots of Pentobarbital and was then heard snoring.
For some reason I've now got an image of a Tennessee sheriff going "%^*& it" and putting a bullet in her. Frankly, that would have been more civilised.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8r6rjdvlx6o
Agree. Coup de grace would have been better in every way. (Possibly not with a gun in a small room.)For some reason I've now got an image of a Tennessee sheriff going "%^*& it" and putting a bullet in her. Frankly, that would have been more civilised.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8r6rjdvlx6o
mondayo said:
Plus there's lots of reports that despite her having a very messed up childhood (maybe into early adulthood) they refuse to accept that as mitigating circumstances.
Normal, well adjusted people don't commit murder (often).The criminal justice system is there to (try to) protect us from messed up people by detering (some of) them.
They used to have a three drug protocol - a benzodiazepine to put them out, a paralytic to stop them breathing, and potassium to stop their heart. They've now gone to a single drug protocol - a big dose of pentobarbital (same drug vets use to euthanise animals) and a second one if that doesn't work. In this case, she was still alive after both doses.
50,000 Americans accidentally offed themselves with fentanyl or other synthetic opioids last year, yet their justice system can't figure out how to reliably kill someone with the drugs that they can get their hands on.
I'm not in favour of executing people, but it's interesting how this particular murderer being a woman seems to be relevant to the debate.
50,000 Americans accidentally offed themselves with fentanyl or other synthetic opioids last year, yet their justice system can't figure out how to reliably kill someone with the drugs that they can get their hands on.
I'm not in favour of executing people, but it's interesting how this particular murderer being a woman seems to be relevant to the debate.
Sheets Tabuer said:
She tortured a girl for over an hour, cut a pentagram in to her chest with a stanley knife while she was alive and finally smashed her head in with a piece of asphalt keeping part of the skull as a trophy which she showed to people.
...and was then convicted of trying to strangle a woman to death in prison.Sheets Tabuer said:
mondayo said:
they refuse to accept that as mitigating circumstances.
She tortured a girl for over an hour, cut a pentagram in to her chest with a stanley knife while she was alive and finally smashed her head in with a piece of asphalt keeping part of the skull as a trophy which she showed to people.There isn't any mitigating circumstances.
Nobody would claim what she was not utterly appalling. But it didn't happen in a vacuum.
Sheets Tabuer said:
She tortured a girl for over an hour, cut a pentagram in to her chest with a stanley knife while she was alive and finally smashed her head in with a piece of asphalt keeping part of the skull as a trophy which she showed to people.
There isn't any mitigating circumstances.
31 years ago. Not that I would have been in favour of the death penalty 31 days or 31 weeks or 31 months after the horrific crime anyway, but 31 years makes it utterly ludicrous.There isn't any mitigating circumstances.
paulguitar said:
The perp was herself raped, mentally and physically abused by more than one person throughout her childhood.
Nobody would claim what she was not utterly appalling. But it didn't happen in a vacuum.
No crime happens in a vacuum, you still have to try to deter it as best you can.Nobody would claim what she was not utterly appalling. But it didn't happen in a vacuum.
I'm torn on this. Generally not a fan of the death penalty, although I'm more sympathetic to it for mass murder, or crimes against children.
The victims family said they wanted her to suffer.
She sat awaiting execution for over 30 years, mostly in solitary.
She was walked in to the chamber, told there was no reprieve, and watched them put the needles in her arm, and then press the button. She closed her eyes knowing "this is it, there is no hope".
Even if there is no lasting brain damage, she's certainly suffered - she knows what it's like to face your last moment, being watched by the people you caused immeasurable suffering to. She has essentially experienced being executed. She survived not because she did anything, said anything, won anything. The state f
ked it up. "You had one job".
I think that's sufficient to now commute her sentence to life - no comment on whether she should ever be eligible for parole.
The victims family said they wanted her to suffer.
She sat awaiting execution for over 30 years, mostly in solitary.
She was walked in to the chamber, told there was no reprieve, and watched them put the needles in her arm, and then press the button. She closed her eyes knowing "this is it, there is no hope".
Even if there is no lasting brain damage, she's certainly suffered - she knows what it's like to face your last moment, being watched by the people you caused immeasurable suffering to. She has essentially experienced being executed. She survived not because she did anything, said anything, won anything. The state f
ked it up. "You had one job". I think that's sufficient to now commute her sentence to life - no comment on whether she should ever be eligible for parole.
BikeBikeBIke said:
paulguitar said:
The perp was herself raped, mentally and physically abused by more than one person throughout her childhood.
Nobody would claim what she was not utterly appalling. But it didn't happen in a vacuum.
No crime happens in a vacuum, you still have to try to deter it as best you can.Nobody would claim what she was not utterly appalling. But it didn't happen in a vacuum.
The death penalty is demonstrably not a deterrent, though.
Either way, this whole thing is a complete disgrace.
paulguitar said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
mondayo said:
they refuse to accept that as mitigating circumstances.
She tortured a girl for over an hour, cut a pentagram in to her chest with a stanley knife while she was alive and finally smashed her head in with a piece of asphalt keeping part of the skull as a trophy which she showed to people.There isn't any mitigating circumstances.
Nobody would claim what she was not utterly appalling. But it didn't happen in a vacuum.
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff