What cars would you recommend! I have a budget
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Need genuine recommendation:
Reliable car wanted 20000 miles plus per year
No older than 2021 plate
Budget 17500
I like Audi, BMW, VW and Mini’s but willing to listen and take advice.
I’m asking as I was recently burnt financially from a Range Rover with high repair costs so can’t afford it anymore - I need reliability
Reliable car wanted 20000 miles plus per year
No older than 2021 plate
Budget 17500
I like Audi, BMW, VW and Mini’s but willing to listen and take advice.
I’m asking as I was recently burnt financially from a Range Rover with high repair costs so can’t afford it anymore - I need reliability
Huntsman said:
Honda or Toyota.
Specifically manual, not hybrid, petrol, lowest mileage you can find/afford.
Hybrid Toyota or Lexus. Even less to go wrong than a manual conventional ICE. Specifically manual, not hybrid, petrol, lowest mileage you can find/afford.
Lexus of some variety probably best if coming from a Range Rover. Might be tight with the age/budget but remember there's a 10 year warranty if you do have to go a bit older.
Korean.
No badge premium at all. Simpler than a lot of the Japanese cars, in fact I'd go so far as to say that Korean cars are where Japanese cars were 20 years ago, and Japanese cars are becoming more like the Germans.
Hyundai Tucson for a crossover.
Kia Stinger for a Sporty Saloon.
Hyundai i30N for a hot hatch
Kia Sorrento / Hyundai SantaFe for an SUV.
All of the above can be had <50k miles and <£17k.
No badge premium at all. Simpler than a lot of the Japanese cars, in fact I'd go so far as to say that Korean cars are where Japanese cars were 20 years ago, and Japanese cars are becoming more like the Germans.
Hyundai Tucson for a crossover.
Kia Stinger for a Sporty Saloon.
Hyundai i30N for a hot hatch
Kia Sorrento / Hyundai SantaFe for an SUV.
All of the above can be had <50k miles and <£17k.
You could get a brand new pre-reg Suzuki Swift for £17.5k.
If that's big enough for your needs, that likely to be 15 years of hassle free driving ahead of you, the first 10 with a warranty if you service at a main dealer.
They drive pretty well for a low powered hatchback too, helped by being one of the lightest normal cars you can buy.
If that's big enough for your needs, that likely to be 15 years of hassle free driving ahead of you, the first 10 with a warranty if you service at a main dealer.
They drive pretty well for a low powered hatchback too, helped by being one of the lightest normal cars you can buy.
Ian_SW said:
You could get a brand new pre-reg Suzuki Swift for £17.5k.
If that's big enough for your needs, that likely to be 15 years of hassle free driving ahead of you, the first 10 with a warranty if you service at a main dealer.
They drive pretty well for a low powered hatchback too, helped by being one of the lightest normal cars you can buy.
That's not actually that stupid an idea. Normally I'd say new cars are a bad idea financially, but as above, if you keep it the cost amortise. If that's big enough for your needs, that likely to be 15 years of hassle free driving ahead of you, the first 10 with a warranty if you service at a main dealer.
They drive pretty well for a low powered hatchback too, helped by being one of the lightest normal cars you can buy.
Its often interesting looking at the reliability surveys, not only by magazines but from warranty companies as well.
For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
Clad-Hach said:
Its often interesting looking at the reliability surveys, not only by magazines but from warranty companies as well.
For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
Not surprised.For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
Lincsls1 said:
Clad-Hach said:
Its often interesting looking at the reliability surveys, not only by magazines but from warranty companies as well.
For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
Not surprised.For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
If you can charge at home and if your individual journeys are less than c. 200 miles, then an electric car will likely save a lot on both fuel and maintenance over 20k a year. You could get a VW ID.4 77kWh for budget, or a Polestar 2 LR.
Otherwise it's slim pickings for Lexuses up to five years old for the money, you may be best off with a Toyota hybrid of some kind, the Prius would suit I think, or a Corolla hybrid.
Clad-Hach said:
Its often interesting looking at the reliability surveys, not only by magazines but from warranty companies as well.
For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
A couple of points to consider with this survey: For example here is one from Warranty Wise, and before anyone jumps in saying they are the worst warranty company etc etc...I don't care, this is about a survey.
https://www.warrantywise.co.uk/warrantywise-used-v...
A cheaper car might break down just as often, but because it is cheap to fix, it receives a higher score.
An abused Toyota Yaris can easily be less reliable than a meticulously serviced, single-owner BMW X5.
MrHighMileage said:
Need genuine recommendation:
Reliable car wanted 20000 miles plus per year
No older than 2021 plate
Budget 17500
I like Audi, BMW, VW and Mini s but willing to listen and take advice.
I m asking as I was recently burnt financially from a Range Rover with high repair costs so can t afford it anymore - I need reliability
What strikes me about having a budget for a car and a requirement of 20k miles a year, is how many years does the car need to last?Reliable car wanted 20000 miles plus per year
No older than 2021 plate
Budget 17500
I like Audi, BMW, VW and Mini s but willing to listen and take advice.
I m asking as I was recently burnt financially from a Range Rover with high repair costs so can t afford it anymore - I need reliability
20k miles times a few years will knock a lot of value off a car, and some stuff may need working on.
As others have said/implied, 20k miles at 20p per mile for fuel also adds up. It's £4000 a year on fuel which might be as little as £1k to feed an EV.
Your total cost per year might be looked at in terms of devaluing the car over 3 years perhaps? What do you expect it to be worth to sell privately or trade in, with around 110k miles on?
Also when you think about 'reliability', maybe consider the 'use availability' of the car 'package'. If you need a car to be dependable 365days a year, that really implies some kind of back-up in terms of courtesy cars when your car needs service/MOT/repair. That's a cost you pay for.
A dozen years ago I was doing 20k miles or more a year, and needing dependable transport. I was also paying off a mortgage and not wanting to spend much on cars. My solution was to split the miles between a car and a bike. That way I had a plan B if either needed servicing etc. I also went pretty cheap on the cars, because it's good to have the cash at hand to replace the car when it plays up or you grow tired of it. I was making good money, or I wouldn't have been trudging 500 miles a week, so I could afford to take the odd risk with cars. I was happy paying the fuel.
Cars have changed since then, I think pre 2010 mid sized cars were a fair bet to get from 90k miles to 150k miles without too much going wrong. I don't have the same confidence in post 2020 cars, too complicated IMHO. But that's just my opinion, it's you who has to take a punt on something and YMMV, literally.
Post covid, I think depreciation of cars has been all over the place, so if you pay £17500 for a car and do 20k miles a year, what do you think it will be worth after 1,2,3,4.... years?
Year 1 might be losing you £6k on the car, plus £4k of fuel plus servicing, tyres etc? Are you happy with that or do you see it differently?
It could be worse than £6k depreciation in yr 1.
And you may want or be forced to change before you planned to.
Don't forget you are buying at retail and the retained value is private sale or trade in.
It's easy to knock a lot of value off. A £15k car soon becomes a £7k car and a £5k car soon becomes a shed.
Cars cost a lot of money.
More so if you actually use them a lot.
Also, my choices were shaped by wanting a mid sized estate, and something that was a pleasant place to be on a long trip and on a long commute at the end of the week. You may have different criteria, saloons, hatchbacks and SUVs open out the choices.
If you're comfortable with the true cost being £10k in the first year, then the safe sensible option is quite likely an EV with some warranty left?
Other wise I'd spend no more than £5k on anything I'd be reasonably sure would do a year or two reliably.
When you need to do a lot of miles, there is a lot to be said for knowing the money to buy the next car is sat in the building society. Sooner you get to that point, the better. Then the longer the current car lasts is a bonus.
Alternatively, if you count the full costs properly and cost in the risk of being unlucky, and you value having something nice and new(ish), you may come to understand leasing isn't always a bad answer?
LRDefender said:
SlowV6 said:
spikeyhead said:
A model 3 Tesla, cheap to run and reliable
Especially if you can charge at home.Dual Motor Long Range post 2021 facelifts are in budget.
With my sensible head on, Tesla is the obvious but dull answer.
OP - how do you get to 20,000 miles a year - a daily commute of 100 miles or travelling 700 miles in a single journey occasionally?
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