Bah - £30 I'd rather not spend
Bah - £30 I'd rather not spend
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Tank Slapper

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7,949 posts

313 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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According to [url]this|http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/3118[/url] there are people who are willing to pay up to £250 for a combined ID card and passport!

The price has, however been set at £30.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

283 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Tank Slapper said:
According to this there are people who are willing to pay up to £250 for a combined ID card and passport!



yep....they are called Nigerians.......

FourWheelDrift

92,317 posts

314 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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government spin said:

Home Office research shows 75% of the public supports the scheme


Translation said:

We asked 100 random punters in the audience at the recent Labour conference and 75 of them (under pain of violence from Big Bazza and his fellow bouncers) said they were in favour or paying. Since this is a clear cross-sector polling sample of the entire UK population it must mean that 75% of the entire country must also be in favour.


There are lies, damn lies and statistics.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Its £30 for the ID card

The Passport and ID card pack is £93

They can right off.

Also, I would very much like to know how many people and their socio-demographic profile of the respondants who were 72% in favour

In a survey of 72 very thick middle class Daily Mail readers...

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

255 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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why daily mail?

seems the mail is rather against the idea... would have thought it being sleepy guardian readers meself

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Plotloss said:

In a survey of 72 very thick middle class Daily Mail readers...


the Daily Mail is very anti ID cards.

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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I particularly liked the fact that they didn't detail how many people were surveyed, how they were selected or what the actual questions asked were.

In a seperate poll UK Gov has also found that when asked whether Tony Bliar was doing

a) an excellent job,
b) a superb job or
c)a brilliant job that

an astonishing 100% who responded though Tony was doing an excellent job or better.

polarbert

17,936 posts

261 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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ive already got an id card, its called a driving licence.

i will be damned if im getting one those, they can arrest me for all i care

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

274 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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polarbert said:
ive already got an id card, its called a driving licence.

i will be damned if im getting one those, they can arrest me for all i care

You will be required to renew your driving licence, when you do you will be required to pop down to the local gestapo office to give your fingerprints/ iris scan, and you will get an ID card anyway. Or you can drive unlicensed and uninsured, difficult decision that isn't it? It will be introduced in a quiet and back door way to avoid mass protest.

Frik

13,689 posts

273 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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tinman0 said:

Plotloss said:

In a survey of 72 very thick middle class Daily Mail readers...



the Daily Mail is very anti ID cards.
The Daily Mail is against everything.

More like "...in a survey of 100 people, asked whether they would rather pay £30 for an ID card or £250, 25 people didn't understand the question."

mr_tony

6,351 posts

299 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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tinman0 said:


Plotloss said:

In a survey of 72 very thick middle class Daily Mail readers...


the Daily Mail is very anti ID cards.


Well in a quick poll of the 5 daily mail READERS in the office 100% are in favour of ID cards to keep out immigrants ( Don't think they've yet grasped the sublety of the mails angle here )

Mail readers don't do much reading, or spend much time on the pics - they just like getting angry reading the headlines.....

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Frik said:

tinman0 said:


Plotloss said:

In a survey of 72 very thick middle class Daily Mail readers...




the Daily Mail is very anti ID cards.

The Daily Mail is against everything.


i am a Daily Mail reader, and i like to think of the Daily Mail as a rabid dog out of control.

it will bite absolutely anyone it wants to.

which is better than the way most of our press sucks up to our current govt.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

283 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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hope none of you guys (and girls) are bald, pianists, typists or labourers..........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4348942.stm

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Coincidentally Populus has just released some Goverment commissioned reseach indicating that 18 million people are at risk of identity theft....

Tank Slapper

Original Poster:

7,949 posts

313 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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What an absolute joke. It doesn't work, so we'll go ahead anyway and hope it does eventually.

Millions of pounds will be squandered on this for almost no practical benefit.

polarbert

17,936 posts

261 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Einion Yrth said:

polarbert said:
ive already got an id card, its called a driving licence.

i will be damned if im getting one those, they can arrest me for all i care


You will be required to renew your driving licence, when you do you will be required to pop down to the local gestapo office to give your fingerprints/ iris scan, and you will get an ID card anyway. Or you can drive unlicensed and uninsured, difficult decision that isn't it? It will be introduced in a quiet and back door way to avoid mass protest.



my driving licence expires in 2055 though, i dont think i will be bothered then

wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Surveys? Don't make me laugh. Have a look on the DoT website; there are any number of documents (search for David Rowe) that have been produced off the back of 'surveys'... I was reading one the other day that was titled something like 'Has sentencing got tougher since the RTA 1993 introduced Dangerous Driving?'
The survey was carried out on people who'd been prosecuted in the last year or two. Now not all of those asked bothered to reply and of those who did, did anyone check they were telling the truth?
I had to return one last week, they are surveying those involved in Radioactive Transport; no doubt some bullsh!t will result. It was a compulsory questionnaire but I tried to be as evasive as possible...

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

314 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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timmy30 said:
Coincidentally Populus has just released some Goverment commissioned reseach indicating that 18 million people are at risk of identity theft....

In a survey of 1000 people, after verifying their identity, it was concluded that 1000 people in the UK were at risk of identity theft...

polarbert

17,936 posts

261 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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bbc news said:
But it is expected most people will want a combined passport and ID card, costing an estimated £93 each to make. The cards will be valid for 10 years.


that means from now until im 70 i will spend £465 on bugger all! that, there not getting my money