Asynchronous tired wear damaging your diff
Asynchronous tired wear damaging your diff
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ColinsCornflakes

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202 posts

4 months

Thursday
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Several times recently I've heard people saying that if your tyres aren't matched to 1mm or so across an axle with a diff (fwd/ rwd & 4x4) then you're taking a massive risk and your car is probably going to explode or something more serious.

Is this real? Isn't the purpose of a diff to allow one wheel to rotate at a different speed to the other one, is this just a rumour being put about by tyre wholesalers?

(Sorry for the typo in the title)

Edited by ColinsCornflakes on Thursday 15th October 23:00

irc

9,849 posts

166 months

Thursday
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My guess. If you can drive for 50 miles on a spacesaver with a huge difference in diameter then 3mm difference will make no difference.

5lab

1,935 posts

226 months

Thursday
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if you've a limited slip or torque vectoring diff it can wear whatever device is used to apply torque. If its a wide open dif I can't see any way it can apply wear.

swisstoni

24,066 posts

309 months

Yesterday (02:02)
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Sounds like one of the things they say to keep petrolheads awake at night.

Geertsen

1,955 posts

89 months

Yesterday (02:38)
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I may be being simple but wouldn’t mismatched tyre pressures have the same effect? If so, there are so many variables that I don’t believe it. Unless the tyres were wildly different maybe.

jimmyjimjim

8,307 posts

268 months

Yesterday (03:56)
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Depends on the car. Calibra 4x4 was notorious for center diff issues caused by uneven tire wear. Other vehicles, not so much.

RicksAlfas

14,552 posts

274 months

Yesterday (09:35)
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Isn't this a thing which keeps BMW X-drive owners awake at night?


Chris-ozpmv

1 posts

Yesterday (14:17)
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RicksAlfas said:
Isn't this a thing which keeps BMW X-drive owners awake at night?
Certainly is! F25 2014 X3, recommendation is I think front/back need to be within 3-4mm of tread. Had to replace 2 fronts as one had a nail in it and was unrepairable. The rears are perfectly fine but probably about 4mm left on them and the drivetrain clonks at low speeds now... :-( I don't really want to spend another £400 on rear tyres as well just because BMW can't engineer a decent 4x4 system but will probably have to...

QuartzDad

2,988 posts

152 months

Yesterday (14:31)
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Son has a 2013 320d XDrive, he had a very ominous rear axle clunking until he sorted out the tyres.

RazerSauber

2,926 posts

90 months

Yesterday (14:36)
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jimmyjimjim said:
Depends on the car. Calibra 4x4 was notorious for center diff issues caused by uneven tire wear. Other vehicles, not so much.
Cavalier and Calibra 4x4 were plagued by transfer box issues due to uneven tyre wear, and they are to this day. Those boxes are really thin on the ground now too. All 4 tyres had to be the same make and model, with matching tread. Imagine 1 blow out and you're left needing 4 brand new tyres. Not fun.

It is a real thing but a lot of manufacturers will have engineered ways around it by now I would think.

chris1roll

2,060 posts

274 months

Yesterday (21:44)
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Same with the early Volvo AWD systems that used a viscous coupling
All needed to be within ~1mm of wear and of the same make.
People broke them within 50 miles of having just two tyres replaced, or by using the special spare.

Kawasicki

14,385 posts

265 months

Yesterday (21:49)
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Wear has almost no impact on rolling circumference.

Don Roque

18,289 posts

189 months

They used to say this about the Audi A8 I used to own (a D2 model). Torsen AWD, needs all four tyres to be within 1mm of wear or it'll explode...etc. I was always more worried about the gearbox blowing up than the AWD system, since they were notorious for it.