accessing and using an old work laptop
accessing and using an old work laptop
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A993LAD

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2,143 posts

251 months

Sunday 18th October
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I have a work supplied Laptop that they didn't want back when I retired.

even when I was working I rarely used the work supplied laptop as I just used my own laptop at home and was working from home most of the time.

so the laptop is about 18 months old and I haven't used it for a year but my wife's laptop is about 10 years old so I was just thinking I would give it to her and she could use it. but I just tried to fire it up and I've forgotten my password. also, even if I knew the password my guess is it will have some kind of security software on it from work.

it is a Microsoft branded laptop and it doesn't seem to have a model number printed on it anywhere.

Any tips on how I can get access to this laptop and clear everything down so it could be used?

if I can't get into it I guess it will have to go into the bin which is a shame as it is relatively new with hardly any use on it so far.

AlexC1981

5,851 posts

247 months

Sunday 18th October
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Use another PC and a USB stick to create windows 11 installation media from the link below.

Choose English International and it should pick up the British version rather than US.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

Stick it in the laptop, restart and install windows 11 fresh. Delete all the old partitions to ensure it is a completely clean installation.

If it does not boot from the USB stick you might need to keep tapping delete or escape or F12 (depends on the computer, you can google it) and find a setting to allow you to boot from USB. You may find the BIOS is locked as it is an ex-corporate laptop, which may prevent you from doing this.

You might need a new Windows 11 licence. These can be purchased surprisingly cheap from places like Groupon.

AB

20,579 posts

225 months

Sunday 18th October
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If work let you keep it can you not phone them and ask for a favour?

A993LAD

Original Poster:

2,143 posts

251 months

Sunday 18th October
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AB said:
If work let you keep it can you not phone them and ask for a favour?
Hmm possibly not. It wasn't really a "let me keep it" scenario. It was more an "I left and they never asked me to return it" situation.

I suspect that if I call up the IT dept and say I've got this and I want to unlock it they'll say definitely not can we have it back please.

They were a bit lax like that. The newish one I want to unlock replaced an earlier one that I still have too but IT should probably have asked for that one back as well. smile

I doubt they bother seeking any returns when people leave tbh as few staff would want a 2 year old second hand laptop and the IT guys are too busy to clear them down or dispose of them.

A993LAD

Original Poster:

2,143 posts

251 months

Sunday 18th October
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AlexC1981 said:
Use another PC and a USB stick to create windows 11 installation media from the link below.

Choose English International and it should pick up the British version rather than US.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

Stick it in the laptop, restart and install windows 11 fresh. Delete all the old partitions to ensure it is a completely clean installation.

If it does not boot from the USB stick you might need to keep tapping delete or escape or F12 (depends on the computer, you can google it) and find a setting to allow you to boot from USB. You may find the BIOS is locked as it is an ex-corporate laptop, which may prevent you from doing this.

You might need a new Windows 11 licence. These can be purchased surprisingly cheap from places like Groupon.
Thanks, will this work even if I can't open up the laptop because I can't remember my work password?

.:ian:.

3,159 posts

233 months

Sunday 18th October
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Hopefully its not enrolled to Intune, if it is it will force you to login using a domain account during even a fresh install.
You should be able bypass by not connecting to the internet during the install - https://search.brave.com/search?q=microsoft+intune...

peterperkins

3,447 posts

272 months

Sunday 18th October
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Take the hard drive out.
Format it/on another machine or just fit a new one.
Then install windows from a USB stick as suggested.

xx99xx

3,063 posts

103 months

Sunday 18th October
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A993LAD said:
Hmm possibly not. It wasn't really a "let me keep it" scenario. It was more an "I left and they never asked me to return it" situation.

I suspect that if I call up the IT dept and say I've got this and I want to unlock it they'll say definitely not can we have it back please.

They were a bit lax like that. The newish one I want to unlock replaced an earlier one that I still have too but IT should probably have asked for that one back as well. smile

I doubt they bother seeking any returns when people leave tbh as few staff would want a 2 year old second hand laptop and the IT guys are too busy to clear them down or dispose of them.
Who wouldn't want a 2 year old laptop?! Clearly you do, so why wouldn't your previous employer?

I just got a 'new' laptop at work. It's a refurbished one which replaced my 7 year old beast when the battery finally had enough. Absolutely bliss now to have the laptop on without the fan going full speed permanently.

Anyway, give the laptop back and buy your own. That's what I'd do.

OldGermanHeaps

5,169 posts

208 months

Sunday 18th October
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.:ian:. said:
Hopefully its not enrolled to Intune, if it is it will force you to login using a domain account during even a fresh install.
You should be able bypass by not connecting to the internet during the install - https://search.brave.com/search?q=microsoft+intune...
I had that on a brand new straight out the wrapper mini pc bought from amazon. Worked fine on first boot. Ran windows update and during OOBE it locked up saying it was registered to some big construction company in the states.
I reckon the chinese manufacturer used a dodgy serial number in the bios to activate windows 11 without paying any license fee. I returned it.
I would contact your old employer and say you just found it,and do they want you to wipe it and dispose of it?
Just incase it comes to light down the road, is a theft charge worth it for an old laptop?
If something happens at your old employer and the IT department gets hauled over the coals they might have a renewed interest in auditing their asset register.

Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 18th October 22:52

blueg33

46,718 posts

254 months

Monday 19th October
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If the laptop was ever used for work, his employer have a potential GDPR problem, so should ask for it back to ensure it’s wiped.

AlexC1981

5,851 posts

247 months

Monday 19th October
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A993LAD said:
AlexC1981 said:
Use another PC and a USB stick to create windows 11 installation media from the link below.

Choose English International and it should pick up the British version rather than US.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

Stick it in the laptop, restart and install windows 11 fresh. Delete all the old partitions to ensure it is a completely clean installation.

If it does not boot from the USB stick you might need to keep tapping delete or escape or F12 (depends on the computer, you can google it) and find a setting to allow you to boot from USB. You may find the BIOS is locked as it is an ex-corporate laptop, which may prevent you from doing this.

You might need a new Windows 11 licence. These can be purchased surprisingly cheap from places like Groupon.
Thanks, will this work even if I can't open up the laptop because I can't remember my work password?
Yes, you have to keep tapping delete as the computer starts up because you want the computer to load from the USB and not load Windows. If you are just opening/closing the laptop or shutting down, you might need to do a proper restart from the login screen. You should see an icon in the bottom right to let you choose restart.

the-norseman

15,905 posts

201 months

Monday 19th October
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If you can get at the bios, install a new OS Windows or Linux via USB and off you go, I suspect however the bios will be locked.

alscar

10,012 posts

243 months

Tuesday 20th October
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If its anything like my old company laptop you wont be able to do anything with it without help from your old IT dept but its not your laptop to do anything with it.
I needed a printer installing to it during wfh covid and IT had to sort this at their end to get past the various blockers.
When I stopped work they arranged automatic collection from a courier.
Passwords only last a set time anyway ( or ours did ).
Tbh I would either ask them to get it picked up or if they don't want that ask if you can simply throw it anyway.
I think you may have to just buy your wife a new one !


Steve_H80

627 posts

52 months

Tuesday 20th October
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Installing a new OS (Windows, Linux, whatever) from a USB is the usual way to go, although I expect your old IT Dept will have set the BIOS not to boot from anything except the hard drive and then set a password on the BIOS to stop you changing it.

blueg33

46,718 posts

254 months

Tuesday 20th October
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I had a laptop last year from a company that went bust.

I did eventually get into it, but it took multiple tries. First thing I did was ensure it couldn't connect to the internet. I created a USB windows recover file from another windows machine.

This is the bit I cant quite remember -

I either went into the bios and forced it to boot from the USB, or I forced it to start in safe mode and directed it to boot from the USB.

The computer had a windows recover partition on it, and i ended up deleting that partition, then formatting the hard drive and doing a clean windows install from my microsoft 365 account. This meant that the microsoft account had the bitlocker key.

I cant recall the exact steps, but it was a couple of days worth of trial and error

A993LAD

Original Poster:

2,143 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th October
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So latest update is that I tried downloading Windows 11 to a USB sticking that in the work laptop and then pressing the start button.

But I just get the message on the attached photo saying I'm locked out.

I really think there is zero chance my old workplace are going to come looking for this laptop and even if they do I can just hand it back to them.

But I'm very happy to keep trying to get it working so any suggestions gratefully received.


silentbrown

10,968 posts

146 months

Tuesday 20th October
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AlexC1981 said:
If it does not boot from the USB stick you might need to keep tapping delete or escape or F12 (depends on the computer, you can google it) and find a setting to allow you to boot from USB. You may find the BIOS is locked as it is an ex-corporate laptop, which may prevent you from doing this.
This. You need to get into the BIOS and find the setting to boot from USB. Google "BIOS" and your laptop make/model for more info.

3din

72 posts

5 months

Tuesday 20th October
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silentbrown said:
This. You need to get into the BIOS and find the setting to boot from USB. Google "BIOS" and your laptop make/model for more info.
That won't work. Chances are its locked out. To get around that you have to swap the motherboard. Sometimes cracks are available, but not always.

You need to wipe the drive or start with a new one.

What works for me is to get a usb c to pcie adaptor (or whatever the laptop port is), then use a virtual machine to install windows on the drive. That way you're not swapping drives back and forth, and you have the use of your machine whilst you wait. You can also download installation files in advance and install everything in one go before dropping the ssd back into your laptop.

dk365

10 posts

101 months

Tuesday 20th October
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Op mentions it’s Microsoft branded, which could be a Surface of some description. Booting from USB requires use of the volume down button.

1. Shut down your Surface.

2. Insert the bootable USB drive into the USB port on your Surface.

3. Press and hold the volume-down button on the Surface. While you're doing this, press and release the power button.

4. The Microsoft or Surface logo appears on your screen. Continue to hold the volume-down button. Release the button when spinning dots appear beneath the logo.

5. Follow the on-screen instructions to boot from your USB drive.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/driver...


A993LAD

Original Poster:

2,143 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th October
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Thanks for the new replies.

It's one of these.........

The Microsoft model number 2033 refers to the 13.5-inch Microsoft Surface Laptop 6 (released in 2024), which is built for business and commercial users

I just tried following the instructions above but I now can't power it down, it just seems stuck on the screen in the image I posted earlier saying I'm locked out.

I've tried holding the power off button down and also pressing ctrl/alt/del together but it just stays on.