Is all beer naff now?
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Years ago I use to love a couple of pints of larger, either at the pub or maybe a couple of cans to wind away the evening. Lately though, and I don't think its me, they all seem to taste absolutely awful, it seems to have coincided with them all reducing the alcohol content. I know Cadbury's have altered the chocolate with palm oil instead of milk now so it wouldn't surprise me if the alcohol companies have all altered their product as well in the name of ever increasing profits.
I'm not just talking about the taste being slightly different, they all seem absolutely vile nowadays. The co-op had some larger's on offer yesterday so I got two bottles of stella and two of Corona just to try, drank the two stellas last night and all day today I've felt pretty awful, but more importantly I was farting all day none stop, not just an average fart but enough to clear a room, multiple times. was absolutely disgusting even if I say so myself and I just couldn't stop. This lasted all the way until about 5PM tonight, I've just drunk the two corona bottles and the farting has started all over again.
You shouldn't feel this bad just of 2 bottle's of larger unless there is something seriously wrong with them should you?
I'm not just talking about the taste being slightly different, they all seem absolutely vile nowadays. The co-op had some larger's on offer yesterday so I got two bottles of stella and two of Corona just to try, drank the two stellas last night and all day today I've felt pretty awful, but more importantly I was farting all day none stop, not just an average fart but enough to clear a room, multiple times. was absolutely disgusting even if I say so myself and I just couldn't stop. This lasted all the way until about 5PM tonight, I've just drunk the two corona bottles and the farting has started all over again.
You shouldn't feel this bad just of 2 bottle's of larger unless there is something seriously wrong with them should you?
Frane Selak said:
Years ago I use to love a couple of pints of larger, either at the pub or maybe a couple of cans to wind away the evening. Lately though, and I don't think its me, they all seem to taste absolutely awful, it seems to have coincided with them all reducing the alcohol content. I know Cadbury's have altered the chocolate with palm oil instead of milk now so it wouldn't surprise me if the alcohol companies have all altered their product as well in the name of ever increasing profits.
I'm not just talking about the taste being slightly different, they all seem absolutely vile nowadays. The co-op had some larger's on offer yesterday so I got two bottles of stella and two of Corona just to try, drank the two stellas last night and all day today I've felt pretty awful, but more importantly I was farting all day none stop, not just an average fart but enough to clear a room, multiple times. was absolutely disgusting even if I say so myself and I just couldn't stop. This lasted all the way until about 5PM tonight, I've just drunk the two corona bottles and the farting has started all over again.
You shouldn't feel this bad just of 2 bottle's of larger unless there is something seriously wrong with them should you?
Larger than what? I'm not just talking about the taste being slightly different, they all seem absolutely vile nowadays. The co-op had some larger's on offer yesterday so I got two bottles of stella and two of Corona just to try, drank the two stellas last night and all day today I've felt pretty awful, but more importantly I was farting all day none stop, not just an average fart but enough to clear a room, multiple times. was absolutely disgusting even if I say so myself and I just couldn't stop. This lasted all the way until about 5PM tonight, I've just drunk the two corona bottles and the farting has started all over again.
You shouldn't feel this bad just of 2 bottle's of larger unless there is something seriously wrong with them should you?
Anyway.
Personally, I don't touch stuff like Stella / Carling / Corona / Madri / Estrella and such like.
Lager-wise, do try the Polish stuff. For the most part, they have good flavour, lots of "body", and decent voltage of 5%+. Try:-
Zubr
Zweicz
Tyskie
Perla is odd, in that it packs a 6% hit but has no flavour or "mouthfeel".
Mythos is another good one, IMO
valiant said:
Corona and Stella are just slop.
Get some decent beers instead of the crap
Like what though, what can you buy on the way home that isn't slop for a reasonable price? 2 for £5 isn't exactly cheap. The point is though, if I had a bottle or two of stella a few years ago it never caused fellow colleagues to stand outside for at least 5 minutes before now Get some decent beers instead of the crap
cherryowen said:
Larger than what?
Anyway.
Personally, I don't touch stuff like Stella / Carling / Corona / Madri / Estrella and such like.
Lager-wise, do try the Polish stuff. For the most part, they have good flavour, lots of "body", and decent voltage of 5%+. Try:-
Zubr
Zweicz
Tyskie
Perla is odd, in that it packs a 6% hit but has no flavour or "mouthfeel".
Mythos is another good one, IMO
Tyskie is actually quite nice but always tastes a bit flat. But saying that the others seem to give me a bit of heart burn as well just lately.Anyway.
Personally, I don't touch stuff like Stella / Carling / Corona / Madri / Estrella and such like.
Lager-wise, do try the Polish stuff. For the most part, they have good flavour, lots of "body", and decent voltage of 5%+. Try:-
Zubr
Zweicz
Tyskie
Perla is odd, in that it packs a 6% hit but has no flavour or "mouthfeel".
Mythos is another good one, IMO
trickywoo said:
Any of the mass produced tinned lagers have been dreadful for years. I think dropping the abv has just highlighted it.
I find Krombacher in bottles decent snd also Peroni. The Lidl bottle lager is ok at the budget end.
Aldi do 6 bottles of something in a green carton for £4.99 which is quite nice but again I get heartburn if I drink too much of it, seems safe on the fart front though.I find Krombacher in bottles decent snd also Peroni. The Lidl bottle lager is ok at the budget end.
I'd say the choice of decent beer is the best it's ever been.
I recently subscribed to Beer 25 and get eight cans of really nice stuff each month. That opened my eyes (or taste buds) to the selection of craft beers all the supermarkets carry these days and have found some lovely beers.
The standard stuff the OP mentions has never been top drawer taste wise.
I recently subscribed to Beer 25 and get eight cans of really nice stuff each month. That opened my eyes (or taste buds) to the selection of craft beers all the supermarkets carry these days and have found some lovely beers.
The standard stuff the OP mentions has never been top drawer taste wise.
Is lager beer? I drink lager on a hot day, usually one that has a bit more depth but in my book beer is Timmy Taylor’s or London Pride, failing that Tribute or some other decent IPA.
Partial to a good pint of Guinness in colder weather, but that’s stout. Beer is ale, lager is lager, stay sharp.
PS what happened to mild?
Partial to a good pint of Guinness in colder weather, but that’s stout. Beer is ale, lager is lager, stay sharp.
PS what happened to mild?
Tuftie said:
Is lager beer? I drink lager on a hot day, usually one that has a bit more depth but in my book beer is Timmy Taylor s or London Pride, failing that Tribute or some other decent IPA.
Partial to a good pint of Guinness in colder weather, but that s stout. Beer is ale, lager is lager, stay sharp.
PS what happened to mild?
Sam Smith's is the answerPartial to a good pint of Guinness in colder weather, but that s stout. Beer is ale, lager is lager, stay sharp.
PS what happened to mild?
Organic lager is lovely and the mild is cracking. Love the extra stout aswell
But our taste buds are all different, so what you may find rubbish I may enjoy. Also our taste buds change over time.
lf the big brewers are to be believed when they centralise brewing they strip back the water to be just pure water then add back in the "impurities" as they were at the original brewing site.
Having said all that, yes I do think most beers have changed over the last 20 years.
lf the big brewers are to be believed when they centralise brewing they strip back the water to be just pure water then add back in the "impurities" as they were at the original brewing site.
Having said all that, yes I do think most beers have changed over the last 20 years.
As a country I don't think we are bad at ales, but we have a snobbery towards lagers that seems to exist from breweries down (and has been voiced in this thread) that it's fizzy piss. And that's what they make. I like good lager, a good German, Spanish, polish, Czech even french lager knocks almost anything we produce domestically in to next week. Even America can manage it. And it all starts with the water, I don't know how we get that horrible flavour in to every single factory made lager we make but you can instantly taste a lager that's brewed by any of the big British breweries and had a name slapped on it (because that's all they do). And Hawkstone is no better.
There is an importer and brewery near here, pivovar who make their own mittel and it's very lovely though. So it is possible.
There is an importer and brewery near here, pivovar who make their own mittel and it's very lovely though. So it is possible.
We have some fairly relaxed brewing laws, great for craft beer but unfortunately some of the big companies are taking advantage of this when they brew a popular lager under license in the UK.
Stella and Kronenbourg are prime examples, far lower abv % compared to the original beer and ingredients such as glucose will be used to replace malt. Glucose will give the beer a thinner less malty taste, and lowering the abv% just compounds the issue.
Always check the can/bottle to see if it's brewed under license in the UK, if it is then it will be weaker and inferior compared to the original beer.
The popular Spanish beers are a prime example, another good lager to add to your list is Korev by St Austell Brewery.
Stella and Kronenbourg are prime examples, far lower abv % compared to the original beer and ingredients such as glucose will be used to replace malt. Glucose will give the beer a thinner less malty taste, and lowering the abv% just compounds the issue.
Always check the can/bottle to see if it's brewed under license in the UK, if it is then it will be weaker and inferior compared to the original beer.
The popular Spanish beers are a prime example, another good lager to add to your list is Korev by St Austell Brewery.
I went through exactly the same phase a year or two back. I used to enjoy a couple of cans of an evening and then it all started tasting dull and sweet to me, and I felt rough after even a small amount.
What worked for me was giving the mainstream stuff a break entirely and trying things from a small brewery shop near me instead. A proper Czech style lager or a wheat beer on a warm evening is a completely different experience, and I stopped feeling bloated afterwards too. I also found that serving it properly chilled in a real glass rather than drinking straight from the can made a bigger difference than I expected.
Worth a shot before writing beer off altogether. The choice at the independent end of the market really is the best it has ever been.
What worked for me was giving the mainstream stuff a break entirely and trying things from a small brewery shop near me instead. A proper Czech style lager or a wheat beer on a warm evening is a completely different experience, and I stopped feeling bloated afterwards too. I also found that serving it properly chilled in a real glass rather than drinking straight from the can made a bigger difference than I expected.
Worth a shot before writing beer off altogether. The choice at the independent end of the market really is the best it has ever been.
stevethegreek said:
cherryowen said:
Mythos is another good one, IMO
Mythos was good IMO when it used to be imported, now brewed in Northampton 
Morrisons have had a cull recently and no longer sell Budvar or Pilsners Urquell which leaves me with little choice for cans.
I was down to Estrella Galicia last time. As always Aldi comes to the rescue with their offerings, normally Rheinbacher.
Thankfully Irish Ferries had 48 cans of Belgium Artois for £20 so filled the car.
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