Aberfan 60 year anniversary :(
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Legacywr

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15,791 posts

218 months

Yesterday (17:51)
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Felt compelled to start a post about the Aberfan disaster, I was only 4 years old when this happened, but the loss of those children was chilling and heartbreaking, and has stayed with me…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crd930p80900t

There’s a great, hard hitting documentary on IPlayer called Aberfan: The Village That Fought Back, which covers the disaster and the injustices that followed.

All those poor children… and, their parents frownfrownfrown

seabod91

1,143 posts

92 months

Yesterday (18:01)
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As a community how do you move forward from a disaster like that. Absolutely horrendous and unthinkable. Well before my time but gives me shivers every time I read about this.

Randy Winkman

22,619 posts

219 months

Yesterday (18:14)
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I'm normally a bit of a TV documentary obsessive but wont be watching the stuff on this as I genuinely think it's too sad. frown

AB

20,573 posts

225 months

Yesterday (18:25)
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I'd never heard of it until today, how utterly harrowing for everyone involved and connected.

It's getting to the point where even the child survivors are getting into their late 60's/70's - my parents age.

It's something that'd traumatise you as a kid and I don't believe you'd ever truly get over it.

Randy Winkman

22,619 posts

219 months

Yesterday (18:38)
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AB said:
I'd never heard of it until today, how utterly harrowing for everyone involved and connected.

It's getting to the point where even the child survivors are getting into their late 60's/70's - my parents age.

It's something that'd traumatise you as a kid and I don't believe you'd ever truly get over it.
I guess it's fair enough you'd not heard of it since it's your parents, not you that are that age. I'm in my early 60s and it's one of those sad stories that was always somewhere in the background. I probably heard about it on Blue Peter. Along with the coat hanger Christmas lantern, dog birthday cake and pooing baby elephants they had some pretty serious stuff here and there.

Bigends

6,192 posts

158 months

Yesterday (18:42)
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I'm the same age as most of the pupils that died. I remember it on the news and in the papers at the time - awful tragedy

Puddenchucker

5,942 posts

248 months

Yesterday (18:50)
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How the people of Aberfan coped with that, especially the children that survived and parents of those children lost, I cannot begin to comprehend.

The one positive thing that came out of this tragedy was that it ultimately lead to the creation of the Health and Safety at Work Act, which has prevented countless injuries and deaths since.

TriumphStag3.0V8

5,508 posts

111 months

Yesterday (18:50)
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I lived in South Wales as a kid in the 1980's, it was still very raw even then 20 years or so later, absolutely heartbreaking, terrible thing to have happened. Not just the people (mostly Children) who died on the day, but the multitude of health issues that the people of the village suffered in the years afterward. The timing of the disaster was tragic as well.


McGee_22

8,141 posts

209 months

Yesterday (19:00)
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My brother was born six months before the disaster and I was born the following year. My first awareness of the disaster was when I was nine reading the newspaper of the ten year anniversary with my Father and he burst into tears. As a young Father the deaths of 116 children had obviously deeply affected him and the anniversary brought back all the emotions he had obviously felt that day.

Thinking back to my own childhood I couldn't even start to comprehend the devastation that an event such as this would affact a survivor let alone the multitude of parents, siblings and the rest of the close knit families that lived so deeply intertwined in the Valleys at that time.

Landlubber

1,633 posts

79 months

Yesterday (19:28)
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One very upsetting aspect of the tragedy was the utter and complete bds at the government end didn't want the oal board to give any compensation. At one stage they actually considered sending someone to the grieving parents and asking "how much did you love your child", seriously wanted to find out how to dodge payments. It took years to get anything, they even trousered public donations. bds.

I'm Welsh, my dad went down the pit at Porth when he was only 14, they were neighbours. I'll never forgive them.

moorx

4,696 posts

144 months

Yesterday (19:48)
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It was before my time but I feel like I've always been aware of it, even though I haven't always lived in Wales. I read the live coverage on the BBC at lunchtime and found it very moving, but one post (on page 3) tipped me over the edge into tears:

She went running home but her parents weren't there, with her dad digging, looking for survivors.

"He found my sister Edwina and she was alive but he couldn't get her out because the roof would have fallen in," she said.

"My father laid by her side, held her hand and she suffocated."


It's beyond comprehension how a parent comes back from an experience like that. Appalling.

Thanks for posting this thread, though, OP.

gazza285

11,213 posts

238 months

Yesterday (19:53)
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An entirely preventable tragedy, preceded and followed by disgraceful behaviour from the government and the NCB.

oddman

4,287 posts

282 months

Yesterday (19:57)
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gazza285 said:
An entirely preventable tragedy, preceded and followed by disgraceful behaviour from the government and the NCB.
Yup. And we need to recognise the spivs and chancers who want to turn the clock back on H&S so these disasters might happen again. They're already trying to roll back measures to limit the insidious child killing effects of urban pollution.

zetec

5,239 posts

281 months

Yesterday (19:58)
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I've recently been watching The Crown (yes I know, late to the party and all that). The Aberfan episode was particularly touching, how do you cope in such circumstances frown

Dog Biscuit

2,719 posts

27 months

Yesterday (20:03)
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Yes, what an awful, sad tragedy. Poor little children.

Things like this must never be forgotten.

Landlubber

1,633 posts

79 months

Yesterday (20:05)
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The coal board knew the tip was unstable, it had been reported many times that there was water running through it, they did nothing because it would have eaten into their profit margins.

Derek Smith

49,934 posts

278 months

Yesterday (20:06)
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gazza285 said:
An entirely preventable tragedy, preceded and followed by disgraceful behaviour from the government and the NCB.
There was a collection at the firm where I was working at the time. It's the only one I remember where everyone wanted to contribute. We collected a fair old sum. I can't remember anything that hurt me more. Kids. Not only that, an entirely preventable disaster. When the information about warnings, etc, came later, it just made it worse.

When we found out some of the money had been given to the NCB, there was anger at my firm. How could anyone think such behaviour acceptable? Stealing from the comunity the NCB had so hiddeously harmed!

We had another collection and the organiser went to the village, I assume to hand the cash over.

When I saw the advert for the TV programme I wanted to look at it, but I can't. I lived through those times, I read the horror in the newspapers and saw the TV news. Can't go through that again. It was formative, and for many I assume.

Legacywr

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15,791 posts

218 months

Yesterday (20:09)
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zetec said:
I've recently been watching The Crown (yes I know, late to the party and all that). The Aberfan episode was particularly touching, how do you cope in such circumstances frown
The Crown on Netflix handled the subject brilliantly.

Randy Winkman

22,619 posts

219 months

Yesterday (20:12)
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Legacywr said:
zetec said:
I've recently been watching The Crown (yes I know, late to the party and all that). The Aberfan episode was particularly touching, how do you cope in such circumstances frown
The Crown on Netflix handled the subject brilliantly.
I didn't watch The Crown for years because I simply didn't realise it had great stuff like that in it.

TUS373

5,215 posts

311 months

Yesterday (20:22)
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I cannot conceive what it may have been like to in Aberfan back then. Great sorrow. Loss of young innocent lives. Terrible, terrible thing.