hacking into MSN
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Lois

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14,706 posts

270 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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I think someone is trying to hack my MSN.
Occasionally over the past few months I've tried signing in and it's said my email address or password is incorrect. I've gone through the whole process each time to change my password.

This happened again this morning. Futhermore I was signed out of MSN because I had apparently signed on to another PC. He/She spoke to one of my contacts but obviously didn't have my avatar picture. However He/She did know how old my friend is (it's good to have inquisitive friends!!) :confused:

Just to add to the complicatedness, when I signed back in again after changing password yet again, I noticed that they had added my account to my contact list. I've blocked this just incase.

Oh and have now just been informed that someone has tried hacking into my inquisitive friend's account.

UncleDave

7,155 posts

249 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Try running some Virus software, that could be a Virus/Trojan
You may have downloaded some files containing something. It wouldn't hurt to scan for Spyware/Adware either..

That is probably the only reason I can think of!
After you get rid of the problem, change your password again after rebooting your computer.

Hope that helps,
Dave.

Frik

13,642 posts

261 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Not sure this is part of the same thing but when I log into Messenger I keep getting messages from people I don't know trying to join my contact list, ie ones that have been "invited" by me only not.

Any ideas?

Sorry for the semi-hijack Lois

Lois

Original Poster:

14,706 posts

270 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Strange virus that changes your msn name to "I'm a slut"

Will run a virus scan and adaware to be on safe side!

UncleDave

7,155 posts

249 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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The contact adding thing is probably just that other people have got your MSN address from somewhere and are adding you..

When I say it's a Virus/Trojan, I'm thinking along the lines of a keylogger, or something similar to that - probably the easiest way to steal a password. And no matter how many time you change it the bloke on the other end will be able to see your new one.


Dave.

Lois

Original Poster:

14,706 posts

270 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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so if it is a keylogger (no idea what one is) can it be stopped?

Frik

13,642 posts

261 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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UncleDave said:
The contact adding thing is probably just that other people have got your MSN address from somewhere and are adding you..
Why bother?

Lois

Original Poster:

14,706 posts

270 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Yeah they've added me to my own account

No idea if this is related or not but MSN is disconnected me and then automatically reconnecting me again. Takes aged to connect again though.

trackcar

6,453 posts

244 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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stop using msn and connect through trillian .. i don't know why or how but it seems to be much better at keeping low-life attacks out. you can consolidate all your aol, msn, icq etc accounts in one chat client too.

UncleDave

7,155 posts

249 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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If it is a Keylogger or something similar then it can be stopped with scans...

Something that would be better is to scan in Safe Mode (Press F8 - as far as I can remember - when the computer is booting up, checking hard drives/memory etc)

And about the other problem with strange people adding you... wouldn't worry just block 'em or add them and see who the hell they are. Just don't accept files from them..

Dave.

Lois

Original Poster:

14,706 posts

270 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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just had an email back from msn. All it said was "This is an unmonitored emailbox" so no idea what that means!

Luckily have just got in and could sign in so looks like the hacker has gone to bed for now.

trackcar

6,453 posts

244 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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you could always copy all your contacts into a file and import them into a new account once you've done all your virus / trojan / anything else scanning etc ..

Julian64

14,323 posts

272 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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I think you want to look closely at the keylogger possibility.

Do you have software that can do this?

randlemarcus

13,635 posts

249 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Lois, either Spyware S&D or the Microsoft antiSpyware program will detect most current trojan or keylogger software.

If this is keylogger software, then whoever is monitoring it has probably told anything you already have to ignore the threat. Given the exploit of changing screen name to something horrid, I would suspect an ex has something to do with this.

Get the programs above( Google 'em), run them in thorough mode, check whats on there, then go to an internet cafe, change the passport password from there, and sit back and ask your mates to monitor for a day. If you still appear on MSN with an iffy client, then you have a bigger problem, and one thats worth reporting. abuse@msn.co.uk should be a monitored mail address, or at least give you a clue as to how to report abuse. DONT DO THIS until you have looked on your own PC, as the easiest response for them is to kill the email address altogether.
hth

Marcus

swanboy

296 posts

264 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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anonymous said:
[redacted]


I have now lost access to my hotmail account in similar circumstances, one of my contacts was chatting to me while i wasn't even logged in. My password has been changed and i cannot get into hotmail to get the password reset email. I don't even remember setting a reminder question (I don't have a favourite historical figure).
Any suggestions

When i email microsoft i just get
'this is an unmonitored mailbox'

Lois

Original Poster:

14,706 posts

270 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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same as me then! I emailed another msn account and got a propper response but all it said was change my password! I already did that durr!

Do you have an alternate email address?? You can send passwords to that.

Lois

Original Poster:

14,706 posts

270 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Oh and on the ex BF front. I haven't had any ex's for a year and even ex's I do have I dont think have any grudges against me for anything.

Julian64

14,323 posts

272 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp?productid=symhome&langid=ie&venid=sym

Try something simple first. Go to this website and let it do a virus check for you.

Lois

Original Poster:

14,706 posts

270 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Hacker Exposure Check
Windows Vulnerability Check
Trojan Horse Check
Antivirus Product Check
Virus Protection Update Check
All safe according to that.

Thanks for the link though.

Julian64

14,323 posts

272 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Well time for 'Whats your favorite virus checker' then. What you using on your computer?


Chilling statistics from Data protection bumf I recieve here at the surgery suggests still the commonest way of someone knowing your passwords is by access to your actual machine. Either by looking over your shoulder or when you're not there.

Apparently thats still a more common form of hacking than keyloggers.