Binance Hack - $6.3bn
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The Ferret

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1,295 posts

191 months

Friday 30th October
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If you think you're having a bad day, try being the engineer who's laptop led to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwg7xp8kx4v5o

The firm says customers money is safe, and they are covering every loss.

$6.3 billion yikes


hiccy18

4,215 posts

98 months

Friday 30th October
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Another crypto exchange "hack", honest guv.

Wheel Turned Out

2,418 posts

69 months

Friday 30th October
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Coffeezilla has done a nice little explainer (as he usually does!).




rider73

4,975 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October
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The Ferret said:
If you think you're having a bad day, try being the engineer who's laptop led to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwg7xp8kx4v5o

The firm says customers money is safe, and they are covering every loss.

$6.3 billion yikes
whos covering it? an insurance company / companies - are we sure they can? they might struggle? this might have major knock effects across a lot of markets....

Tom8

6,606 posts

185 months

Friday 30th October
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Bank robbery! Oh no. Surely savings are protected by the government insurance? No? Oh that's a shame.

Monkeylegend

29,541 posts

262 months

Friday 30th October
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I just checked under the bed, my bag of money is still safely under there.

Jimbo.

4,235 posts

220 months

Friday 30th October
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fk ‘em.

DonkeyApple

70,695 posts

200 months

Friday 30th October
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rider73 said:
whos covering it? an insurance company / companies - are we sure they can? they might struggle? this might have major knock effects across a lot of markets....
It's less than a year's profit so they can self cover if needs be which they will so as to protect their business.

Not sure what the general knock on effects would be. It could drive more business to them from smaller exchanges who couldn't self cover as this event reveals to wider crypto users that capital is 100% at risk.

It probably benefits the drive to issue government backed stable coins which helps the U.S. Treasury et al.

Not entirely sure it really means anything too much as customers won't lose anything so will probably carry on as before.

What it does or at least should do, is remind all businesses that the weakest security link is most often one's employees, whether accidental or deliberate.

fooman

1,291 posts

95 months

Friday 30th October
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rider73 said:
The Ferret said:
If you think you're having a bad day, try being the engineer who's laptop led to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwg7xp8kx4v5o

The firm says customers money is safe, and they are covering every loss.

$6.3 billion yikes
whos covering it? an insurance company / companies - are we sure they can? they might struggle? this might have major knock effects across a lot of markets....
Just a number on the screen, type $6.3B click add. You think if everyone tried to withdraw their bitcoin the cash is just stacked in a pile ready to use? Exchanges have a habit of shutting down to weather the storm incase anybody notices the cash is spent.

captain_cynic

17,570 posts

126 months

Friday 30th October
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rider73 said:
The Ferret said:
If you think you're having a bad day, try being the engineer who's laptop led to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwg7xp8kx4v5o

The firm says customers money is safe, and they are covering every loss.

$6.3 billion yikes
whos covering it? an insurance company / companies - are we sure they can? they might struggle? this might have major knock effects across a lot of markets....
Who is covering an unregulated "finance" company...

No one.

That's the point of being unregulated. You don't have an evil government telling you to cover yourself against risk because nothing bad could ever possibly happen.

Ultimately the the customer that'll have to wear it. Not that many would raise insurance claims if they could because they don't want to admit why they're keeping money in crypto or how much it is or where they got the money from in the first place.

vikingaero

13,506 posts

200 months

Friday 30th October
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Binance ADGM entities are regulated by the Financial Services Regulatory Authority (FSRA) of the Abu Dhabi Global Markets (ADGM) as follows: (1) Nest Exchange Limited is recognised as a Recognised Investment Exchange (Derivatives), with a stipulation to Operate a Multilateral Trading Facility; (2) Nest Clearing and Custody Limited is recognised as a Recognised Clearing House, with a stipulation to Provide Custody and operating a Central Securities Depository; (3) Nest Trading Limited is authorised to carry out the following Regulated Activities: (i) Dealing in Investments as Principal; (ii) Dealing in Investments as Agent; (iii) Arranging Deals in Investments; (iv) Managing Assets; (v) Providing Money Services; and (vi) Arranging Custody.

Trading cryptocurrencies involves significant risk and can result in the loss of your capital. You should not invest more than you can afford to lose and you should ensure that you fully understand the risks involved. Before trading, please take into consideration your level of experience, investment objectives, and seek independent financial advice if necessary. Neither the firm nor investments in cryptoassets are regulated by the UK Financial Conduct Authority, nor covered by the UK Financial Ombudsman Service or subject to protection under the UK Financial Services Compensation Scheme.

_Rodders_

5,026 posts

50 months

Friday 30th October
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Un's gonna want a bigger boat.

DonkeyApple

70,695 posts

200 months

Friday 30th October
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vikingaero said:
Binance ADGM entities are regulated by the Financial Services Regulatory Authority (FSRA) of the Abu Dhabi Global Markets (ADGM) as follows: (1) Nest Exchange Limited is recognised as a Recognised Investment Exchange (Derivatives), with a stipulation to Operate a Multilateral Trading Facility; (2) Nest Clearing and Custody Limited is recognised as a Recognised Clearing House, with a stipulation to Provide Custody and operating a Central Securities Depository; (3) Nest Trading Limited is authorised to carry out the following Regulated Activities: (i) Dealing in Investments as Principal; (ii) Dealing in Investments as Agent; (iii) Arranging Deals in Investments; (iv) Managing Assets; (v) Providing Money Services; and (vi) Arranging Custody.

Trading cryptocurrencies involves significant risk and can result in the loss of your capital. You should not invest more than you can afford to lose and you should ensure that you fully understand the risks involved. Before trading, please take into consideration your level of experience, investment objectives, and seek independent financial advice if necessary. Neither the firm nor investments in cryptoassets are regulated by the UK Financial Conduct Authority, nor covered by the UK Financial Ombudsman Service or subject to protection under the UK Financial Services Compensation Scheme.
Nest Trading is nothing at all to do with physical crypto. It's the arm used for the gambling side using regulated instruments.

That said, there is even a reason why Nest uses a regulator in Abu Dhabi instead of a proper one. wink


gotoPzero

20,922 posts

220 months

Friday 30th October
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Vanguard is up the swanny too.

Up to about 10am not even able to log in, now can log in but cant do anything with your account.

Total coincidence? Maybe...


TheInternet

5,272 posts

194 months

Friday 30th October
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I feel for those who have to try and make a decent heist film these days.


CoolHands

23,665 posts

226 months

Friday 30th October
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I’ll be back for more next year


vikingaero

13,506 posts

200 months

Friday 30th October
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Just cashed in my $6.3bn in dollar bills. Needed a dozen HGVs as they're all in 20's biggrin

soad

34,735 posts

207 months

Friday 30th October
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Monkeylegend said:
I just checked under the bed, my bag of money is still safely under there.
Kept mine in a spare suitcase, hidden under the bed frame. When all the bank branches were still open. whistle

cookie1600

2,751 posts

192 months

Friday 30th October
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vikingaero said:
Just cashed in my $6.3bn in dollar bills. Needed a dozen HGVs as they're all in 20's biggrin
I have a large lock up and a spare key that I'm prepared to let you have, rent free for a while.