Learjet 60 N722BD crash
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A couple of threads going on reddit and some interesting video.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1xlbwoe...
Descent rate of 32,000ft per minute!
Similar to the Philadelphia Air Ambulance Lear 55 in Jan 2025 and 2012 Nuevo León Learjet 25 crashes?
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DfNekoeguTB/ at about 30 secs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1xlbwoe...
Descent rate of 32,000ft per minute!
Similar to the Philadelphia Air Ambulance Lear 55 in Jan 2025 and 2012 Nuevo León Learjet 25 crashes?
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DfNekoeguTB/ at about 30 secs.
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Apparently this was the plane path on flight rader.
after looking at the location on google maps it doesn't look like it hit any buildings. just grass/pavement/road,
Apparently this was the plane path on flight rader.
after looking at the location on google maps it doesn't look like it hit any buildings. just grass/pavement/road,
MonkeyBusiness said:
I completely agree with his comment. Jesus.Just a friendly note that you really don't need to listen to the ATC recording that's kicking about. The impact was instant, the descent wasn't.
That was a very very fast near verical impact, I'd suspect a lot of the wreckage will have gone deep. Investigation will take a lot of effort, assuming they excavate it, which isn't always the case.
That was a very very fast near verical impact, I'd suspect a lot of the wreckage will have gone deep. Investigation will take a lot of effort, assuming they excavate it, which isn't always the case.
okgo said:
Yes there s EXTENSIVE posts on Reddit saying not to listen to this.
I ve seen a few folk on there saying impact could have been at 5-600mph. Awful.
Impact was captured on a dashcam, just stumbled across it & the atc audio on YouTube, brutal stuff I d rather not have seen/heard.I ve seen a few folk on there saying impact could have been at 5-600mph. Awful.
Kinda hoping the dashcam is ai, but it looks real enough, plane came in fast if it was genuine, looked like a missile strike
Edited by Yabu on Sunday 1st November 22:30
From the audio it's alarming how quickly it went to s
t. It goes from sounding mildly uncomfortable about icing and turbulence, requesting permission to climb and then into a 10,000ft per minute dive and then accelerating far beyond that.
I'm assuming that descent rate in excess of 30,000ft per minute, perhaps even close to double that as suggested in another post, couldn't be achieved if the plane was simply falling to Earth, even in a totally nose-down attitude. Were they applying thrust hoping to power out of the stall? It will be interesting to see what went wrong here.
I saw a post saying 'at least they wouldn't have felt anything'. Not on impact, sure, but the 30 seconds or so of uncontrolled terror, screaming at the ATC that they're going to die isn't exactly a peaceful way to go out.
t. It goes from sounding mildly uncomfortable about icing and turbulence, requesting permission to climb and then into a 10,000ft per minute dive and then accelerating far beyond that.I'm assuming that descent rate in excess of 30,000ft per minute, perhaps even close to double that as suggested in another post, couldn't be achieved if the plane was simply falling to Earth, even in a totally nose-down attitude. Were they applying thrust hoping to power out of the stall? It will be interesting to see what went wrong here.
I saw a post saying 'at least they wouldn't have felt anything'. Not on impact, sure, but the 30 seconds or so of uncontrolled terror, screaming at the ATC that they're going to die isn't exactly a peaceful way to go out.
It's a pretty horrific scenario.
Seems like there was a lot of rapidly developing storm cells in the area. They tried to avoid a cumulus nimbus (those tall white clouds you see rising up before a thunderstorm. They're full of rising ice particles, and up/down drafts) Plane tried to get up above it but it was towering over 40,000ft. It's a bit like realising you're heading for a mountain.
The control surfaces iced up and it was game over. Seems like the horizontal stabiliser ripped off in the free fall too.
Terrible.
Seems like there was a lot of rapidly developing storm cells in the area. They tried to avoid a cumulus nimbus (those tall white clouds you see rising up before a thunderstorm. They're full of rising ice particles, and up/down drafts) Plane tried to get up above it but it was towering over 40,000ft. It's a bit like realising you're heading for a mountain.
The control surfaces iced up and it was game over. Seems like the horizontal stabiliser ripped off in the free fall too.
Terrible.
Mastodon2 said:
From the audio it's alarming how quickly it went to st. It goes from sounding mildly uncomfortable about icing and turbulence, requesting permission to climb and then into a 10,000ft per minute dive and then accelerating far beyond that.
I'm assuming that descent rate in excess of 30,000ft per minute, perhaps even close to double that as suggested in another post, couldn't be achieved if the plane was simply falling to Earth, even in a totally nose-down attitude. Were they applying thrust hoping to power out of the stall? It will be interesting to see what went wrong here.
I saw a post saying 'at least they wouldn't have felt anything'. Not on impact, sure, but the 30 seconds or so of uncontrolled terror, screaming at the ATC that they're going to die isn't exactly a peaceful way to go out.
I was served this audio recording by FB reels as I was eating my breakfast this morning.t. It goes from sounding mildly uncomfortable about icing and turbulence, requesting permission to climb and then into a 10,000ft per minute dive and then accelerating far beyond that.I'm assuming that descent rate in excess of 30,000ft per minute, perhaps even close to double that as suggested in another post, couldn't be achieved if the plane was simply falling to Earth, even in a totally nose-down attitude. Were they applying thrust hoping to power out of the stall? It will be interesting to see what went wrong here.
I saw a post saying 'at least they wouldn't have felt anything'. Not on impact, sure, but the 30 seconds or so of uncontrolled terror, screaming at the ATC that they're going to die isn't exactly a peaceful way to go out.
That poor, poor pilot.
The terror in her voice is something I don't wish to ever hear again, I can only imagine what was happening in the back.
RIP to all onboard and no, if you haven't already heard the audio, you really don't need to.
O.T.R said:
jimmyjimjim said:
Descent rate of 32,000ft per minute!
32,767fpm is maximum value value for ROC/D as its an 16bit signed integer.The last altitude vs time stamps on ADSB showed it at nearly 60,000 fpm.
Edited by O.T.R on Sunday 1st November 21:46
I've seen the dashcam footage and do think its real and not AI though. Reluctant to hear the radio recording now after some of these posts.
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