air vents… a step too far?
air vents… a step too far?
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Trikster

Original Poster:

936 posts

233 months

Yesterday (15:02)
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ok, I'm not a fan of all the functions migrating to the touch screens (especially as I leave finger prints everywhere - not built for crime my wife says!) but in many cases I can understand the argument for it from the manufacturers point view - less parts, less weight possibly, fewer switches to go wrong etc etc etc

But a couple of cars we're looking at recently now have the controls for the dash air vents direction buried in the screen.

Now this is something my wife & I adjust a reasonable amount so would grumble anyway, but where's the advantage for the manufacturer?

There were no complex switches before, nothing electrical to go wrong and nothing cluttering up that nice simple scandi style that the designers seem to like, just a simple piece of plastic/metal to direct the airflow where you wanted.

Surely the extra complexity of a motor to move the vanes, weight, cost, more to go wrong etc does not justify moving it to a screen, or am i missing something??


Jazoli

9,687 posts

281 months

Yesterday (15:08)
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My Tesla has them like this, its stupid, there are also no foot vents which means I get cold feet, stupid.

_Rodders_

4,973 posts

50 months

Yesterday (15:11)
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It's steps plural.

Genuinely moronic.

GeniusOfLove

5,848 posts

43 months

Yesterday (15:12)
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I've struggled to see the point in them unless you can set them to swivel and move to distribute air, as you could in the LS430?

Other than that it's just gimmickry for the sake of it, to appeal to the feeble minded.

Catnip64

215 posts

130 months

Yesterday (15:50)
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Jazoli said:
My Tesla has them like this, its stupid, there are also no foot vents which means I get cold feet, stupid.
You can direct the air to your feet in a Model 3. Just tell it that your feet are cold and it will adjust accordingly!

Jazoli

9,687 posts

281 months

Yesterday (16:16)
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Catnip64 said:
Jazoli said:
My Tesla has them like this, its stupid, there are also no foot vents which means I get cold feet, stupid.
You can direct the air to your feet in a Model 3. Just tell it that your feet are cold and it will adjust accordingly!
Oh yes, if you turn auto mode off you can see the symbol, doh!, its not obvious! just been out and you are indeed correct.

Fitting with the topic I suppose, unnecesary complication.


Edited by Jazoli on Monday 2nd November 16:21

Funk

27,774 posts

240 months

Yesterday (16:20)
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I have this in my Polestar 4 and hate it. Just more to go wrong tbh and I shouldn't have to look away from the road just to be adjusting AC or blower direction. Stupid.

Zcd1

740 posts

86 months

I d say it depends on the implementation.

In our Teslas, the integration of the vents into the dash makes for a much cleaner design, and the location of the vents means that the airflow is much less likely to blocked by the driver s hands.

Also, we find the visualization of the airflow during adjustment to be very helpful. Likely as a result, I find myself actually needing to adjust the airflow far less often than in any other car we ve owned.

By contrast, a Porsche Taycan s screen controls and airflow (for instance) are not nearly as well thought out, IMHO.

Edited by Zcd1 on Tuesday 3rd November 15:53

Pica-Pica

16,690 posts

115 months

On my F30, I can adjust the flow rate by a roller dial, and thee direction by a knob on the vent itself.
I think Honda go even better. They have a joystick type knob that you move around to direct the flow, and the joystick has a knurled knob on the top that you rotate to manage the flow rate, so all controlled by one hand

Dannbodge

2,390 posts

152 months

Pica-Pica said:
On my F30, I can adjust the flow rate by a roller dial, and thee direction by a knob on the vent itself.
I think Honda go even better. They have a joystick type knob that you move around to direct the flow, and the joystick has a knurled knob on the top that you rotate to manage the flow rate, so all controlled by one hand
Mercs used to have a similar design.
Was always a nicely weighted and feeling control too.

Quhet

2,952 posts

177 months

Pica-Pica said:
On my F30, I can adjust the flow rate by a roller dial, and thee direction by a knob on the vent itself.
I think Honda go even better. They have a joystick type knob that you move around to direct the flow, and the joystick has a knurled knob on the top that you rotate to manage the flow rate, so all controlled by one hand
The Saab 'eggbox' vents were brilliant and could adjust the airflow in almost any direction.

Electric vent controls just seem to be technology for technologys sake. Would infuriate me and are another reason not to buy a newer car

Chris_i8

2,465 posts

224 months

I'd say it's car dependent too.

I've had a Model 3 for 6 months and it was something that I initially thought might annoy me but the reality is I moved the airflow direction to wide and pointing towards the roof, set to Auto and haven't revisited since day 1, only adjusting temp as with all my previous car's.

I've experienced other interfaces over the years which have really grated.

Longy00000

2,158 posts

71 months

But you could have done that with a manual system and never needed to visit it again.

Ian_SW

1,024 posts

116 months

Presumably a fully electrically controlled system could be so to the preferences of different drivers in a similar way to memory electric seats. I can see that being useful, if a bit unnecessarily complex.

I rarely need to adjust the (manual) vents in my car, and with the system on "Auto" the only action I need to do regularly with the climate control is activate the fast de-mist on cold damp mornings.

My wife's car has remote only control of enabling/disabling the vent for the rear seats. Bizarrely though it can't be controlled from the touchscreen, only be switched on/off by the voice control.

Annoyingly it also has a habit of switching itself off for no obvious reason from time to time, and the first I know of is when my daughter announces she feels car sick when it gets too hot in the back in the summer.......

smallpaul

2,109 posts

167 months

Most cars with touchscreen ventilation controls have them always visible wherever you are in a menu. Our Tesla is just a tap or hold and slide. Audi is the same. Not that you need to. Just set the correct temperature and leave it.

Not difficult. It’s a car, not a F18


Edited by smallpaul on Tuesday 3rd November 19:15

trickywoo

14,264 posts

261 months

Not so much a control panel thing but in recent Mercedes Sprinters you can’t have variable speed air blowing on the windscreen, it’s max fan or nothing.


Pica-Pica

16,690 posts

115 months

smallpaul said:
Most cars with touchscreen ventilation controls have them always visible wherever you are in a menu. Our Tesla is just a tap or hold and slide. Audi is the same. Not that you need to. Just set the correct temperature and leave it.

Not difficult. It s a car, not a F18


Edited by smallpaul on Tuesday 3rd November 19:15
Sometimes you want more or less flow to the hands or to the face.