Big SUV EV, what is the point?!
Big SUV EV, what is the point?!
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Quattr04.

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1,254 posts

22 months

Yesterday (23:12)
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My usual car is a 2026 Tesla model 3 standard range, which has a range of 260-280 miles and I think a 57kw battery pack, this is great for doing 30k a year in and retuning about 4-4.5 miles per kw

Last week a lorry took me out and now it’s off the road while it’s repaired

I’ve been given a polestar 3 SUV, which is massive, but it’s got a 104kw battery, which when I fully charge it, says 280 miles and only returns about 200 on the motorway and is averaging 1.8-2 miles a KW

So what exactly is the point in these massive cars with a huge battery but they still can’t go further on a charge than a car that’s been around 10 years already?

It just seems like a total waste to me and is costing me much more to drive than my Tesla does, and I’m spending more time charging, in the 25k I’ve done in my 3 I’ve been to a supercharger 5 times, in this polestar I’ve had a week I’ve been twice already, plus with the octopus 6 hour cap you can only add 47kw to it which is barely touching the sides in the polestar

It’s also massive but still only has 5 seats, the boot is smaller than the Tesla aswell and miles behind someting like a Skoda superb, the OS is diabolical for a 80k car and well behind Tesla, the Google assistant is useless.

The only positive of the drivetrain is how quick it is, 2.5 tonnes should not gather speed like it does.

Anyway that’s my ramble, add lightness.

_Rodders_

4,992 posts

50 months

Yesterday (23:16)
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Much easier to add power and capacity than it is to add efficiency.

They could build a 5000hp car way easier than they could build a genuine 10miles per kWh car.

And while off peak electricity is almost free no one cares. I spend several times more money on coffee than I do on fuel for 10000 miles a year.

JonnyVTEC

3,262 posts

206 months

Yesterday (23:51)
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It’s not made of cardboard, the boot hinges don’t seize and breaks and doesn’t eat suspension bushes is probably a good reason.

Also it’s very cold so not really apples for apples on efficiency front.

Quattr04.

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1,254 posts

22 months

Yesterday (23:58)
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JonnyVTEC said:
It s not made of cardboard, the boot hinges don t seize and breaks and doesn t eat suspension bushes is probably a good reason.

Also it s very cold so not really apples for apples on efficiency front.
Still get 4 miles out of the Tesla this time of year so of course it doesn’t count

I don’t love the Tesla but it begs the question of why does Everything have to be a useless SUV

Richard-D

2,276 posts

95 months

How far back do we have to look to find someone who drives a Ford Focus whining that X5s exist?

Not everyone wants what you want. That's ok. Nobody is forcing you to buy an SUV.

JonnyVTEC

3,262 posts

206 months

Quattr04. said:
Still get 4 miles out of the Tesla this time of year so of course it doesn t count

I don t love the Tesla but it begs the question of why does Everything have to be a useless SUV
Is that with the cabin protection on and/or pre conditioning which conveniently gets ignored in posts like yours?

gangzoom

8,951 posts

246 months

Quattr04. said:
So what exactly is the point in these massive cars with a huge battery but they still can t go further on a charge than a car that s been around 10 years already?

It just seems like a total waste to me and is costing me much more to drive than my Tesla does,
We have a 9 year old 6 seater X that is about to be replaced by a Ioniq 9. The simple answer is we as a family love the space a larger car offers, we could get by with something the size of a 3, but why put up with a small car having to squash people and luggage when bigger cars exist?

One of the best things actually about EVs is the running costs, we get 3 miles per kWh on the X, charging overnight it costs us about 2.5p/mile, we use to have a Leaf that did 4 miles per kWh, so 1.75p/mile. Over 100k the X has cost us £750 more on fuel, that is mad compared to the fuel costs for say a SQ7 versus a 1.0 Ford focus.

Quattr04. said:
It s also massive but still only has 5 seats, the boot is smaller than the Tesla aswell and miles behind someting like a Skoda superb
This is one of the reasons we didn't get a Polestar to replace the X but went for the Ioniq 9. A large SUV needs be particle. Every summer we take the whole extended family on European road trip. This is the amount of luggage as get into the X AND than 6 people.....I suspect a 3 would barely manage just the luggage let alone than the people. We also make use of the extra seating on a reasonable frequency during holidays, the extra seat is the difference between taking 2 cars or 1.

I cannot wait to test just how ture Bjorns Banana box test is, as he seems to suggest the Ioniq 9 is another step up in space compared to the X......the 3 in comparison is literally less than half the car!! 7 and 17 boxes in comparison to 24 and 39.

The sound isolation on the Ioniq is also suppose to be top class, versus the high school boge project that is the Tesla.....Can you tell I cannot wait for the Hyundai to arrive;).

https://insideevs.com/news/528906/tesla-modely-bjo...







Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 4th November 06:04


Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 4th November 06:06

TheDrownedApe

1,836 posts

87 months

Bigger car can carry bigger batteries which result in longer range and therefore better headline figures for the, generally, clueless buyer.

Add to that the easier engineering in fitting all the necessary gubbins into the vehicle.

JonnyVTEC

3,262 posts

206 months

Why haven’t you got a BMWi3 then.?

Richard-D

2,276 posts

95 months

JonnyVTEC said:
Why haven t you got a BMWi3 then.?
Look, it's only wrong if it's bigger than what he wants. His car being bigger/faster/heavier than necessary isn't relevant