Russell Brand guilty then….

[TVR1]

Could’ve been far worse

[MrBogSmith]

I doubt he'll be seeing it that way when expecting 'a custodial sentence of some length'.

One good result today. Hopefully we'll see Vickrum Digwa's sentence increased soon for another.

[Strangely Brown]

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Odious prick.

[Alickadoo]

TVR1 said:

Could ve been far worse

Or better, do you mean?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmde8w42jpeyt

[TIGA84]

So what sort of sentence would the charges he's been found guilty of get, I've no knowledge of any sort of custodial guidelines?

[TVR1]

Alickadoo said:

TVR1 said:

Could ve been far worse

Or better, do you mean?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmde8w42jpeyt

Worse in the sense that it could’ve been ‘not guilty’

[MrBogSmith]

TVR1 said:

Alickadoo said:

TVR1 said:

Could ve been far worse

Or better, do you mean?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmde8w42jpeyt

Worse in the sense that it could ve been not guilty

I thought you meant far worse as in he could have been found guilty on all counts, hence my reply.

But now I know, yes, agreed.

[TVR1]

MrBogSmith said:

I doubt he'll be seeing it that way when expecting 'a custodial sentence of some length'.

One good result today. Hopefully we'll see Vickrum Digwa's sentence increased soon for another.

Yup.

Digwa was an appalling miscarriage.

And also the girl who was stabbed 10 times.

You can t blame the Judges though.

[breamster]

Strangely Brown said:

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Odious prick.

Couldn't agree more. Nasty bloke. Let's hope he gets a decent sentence. It's begin reported that he is under investigation for two more alleged rapes.

[Bradgate]

Well done that jury. And well done to the brave women who gave evidence.

That’s one less predatory scumbag on the streets.

[TVR1]

TIGA84 said:

So what sort of sentence would the charges he's been found guilty of get, I've no knowledge of any sort of custodial guidelines?

I’m going for around 8 years. With the current discount and problems around prisons? I wouldn’t be surprised if that. Probably serve around 3.

Or, unless crazy, suspended sentence.

But the Justice system does seem a bit crazy just now, so who knows.

[Mr Penguin]

TIGA84 said:

So what sort of sentence would the charges he's been found guilty of get, I've no knowledge of any sort of custodial guidelines?

I'm not sure if these are directly applicable with the dates of the offences, but these are the guidelines for more recent offences. https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/rape/.

If it is applicable he's probably looking at culpability A and harm 2/3.

[mick987]

Bradgate said:

Well done that jury. And well done to the brave women who gave evidence.

That s one less predatory scumbag on the streets.

I don't know how he got away with it for so long, anybody with eyes in their head knew he was a wrong one 20 years ago. People in power covering up for him because he made them money.

[southendpier]

2 More cases being investigated.

[pavarotti1980]

TVR1 said:

I m going for around 8 years. With the current discount and problems around prisons? I wouldn t be surprised if that. Probably serve around 3.

Or, unless crazy, suspended sentence.

But the Justice system does seem a bit crazy just now, so who knows.

Good job the category of offence he has been found guilty of is excluded from potential early release then.

He has also been remanded and told he will serve a lengthy sentence so suspended is not going to be an option either

[Gareth79]

Mr Penguin said:

TIGA84 said:

So what sort of sentence would the charges he's been found guilty of get, I've no knowledge of any sort of custodial guidelines?

I'm not sure if these are directly applicable with the dates of the offences, but these are the guidelines for more recent offences. https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/rape/.

If it is applicable he's probably looking at culpability A and harm 2/3.

I haven't followed the trial closely but I'd think it's 2/3B. Doesn't seem to be aggravating factors, only mitigating factor is no previous convictions, so likely 4 years for a category 3B, 7 years for a 2B.

[Durzel]

I'm curious about the two not guilty rape verdicts. Is it simply the case that the jury felt it was not proven to be non-consensual, or that it didn't happen at all? Is there ever any elaboration on their reasoning?

The one he was found guilty of happened after consensual sex, so seems from the periphery to be the least likely to be found guilty on?

Hopefully he gets a meaningful sentence, especially since he hasn't been cleared of the two other offences, just not proven to the standard.

[MrBogSmith]

Durzel said:

I'm curious about the two not guilty rape verdicts. Is it simply the case that the jury felt it was not proven to be non-consensual, or that it didn't happen at all? Is there ever any elaboration on their reasoning?

Good questions.

Could be any number of reasons there's reasonable doubt including the ones you've suggested.

They could be 90% sure he committed the offences but that's not enough to reach the threshold.

[Ascayman]

Well im shocked, always the people you least suspect.

[rdjohn]

Gosh, what a surprise!

Looks like a creep, talks like a creep. Hardly a shock to find he is a creep.