Hard Drive back ups and UPS
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Auto Artisan

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I m looking to upgrade my home network. I m looking to buy a decent UPS that can keep the router on for a few days.

I have also been thinking about looking to have multiple back ups on various NAS and whether it s possible using a MacBook Pro?

Edited by Auto Artisan on Saturday 7th November 22:45

pghstochaj

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150 months

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You need a big power bank to do that really. UPSs are generally designed for high loads for a short period of time.

You could also buy a few bt broadband battery back up batteries.

Paul Drawmer

5,165 posts

298 months

If you need to use a UPS "for a few days" what is it going to do? If a power outage is that long, then it's most likely that your internet will have died as well.

ARH

2,171 posts

270 months

Paul Drawmer said:
If you need to use a UPS "for a few days" what is it going to do? If a power outage is that long, then it's most likely that your internet will have died as well.
I was going to say the same. If you really need the internet, then use a hotspot on your phone, after all its only going to be battery devices that work.

Steve_H80

633 posts

53 months

It depends what you're planning for. A UPS is usually for power dips till the backup power starts not multi-day offs, and if the power is off for days the lack of internet is the least of your worries.
A router pulls very little power so even a small power bank will keep it going for a few days and will also charge other toys and a light or two.

Auto Artisan

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Okay I’ll have a look into a power bank. Are there any suggestions?

jimbo761

524 posts

113 months

I recently set up an Anker SOLIX C300X as a UPS for my CityFibre ONT and router, mainly as a "just in case" purchase.

Turns out the timing was good. During the latest power cut the local phone mast went down too, so there was no mobile signal and no 5G at all. A lot of people assume their phone is the backup when the broadband drops, but if the masts lose power you've got nothing.

The SOLIX kept the ONT and router running with no interruption, so I still had WiFi and could use WiFi calling. The C300X is compact, quiet, and easily powers a router and ONT for around 9 hours, give or take.

Auto Artisan

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3 months

My process would be:

- Back up Mac Mini daily.
- Have two Hard Drives that would store files that I need but don t need access to all of the time. Then have another set of hard drives that mirror those hard drives.

- Then have another set of hard drives that back them up. Like a none destructive back up.

Then have a external hard drive that s not on the network.

Is this possible at all as I ve some family photos, videos and memories that I would like to keep hold of. I would also like to eliminate data corruption and loss of media.

Edited by Auto Artisan on Sunday 8th November 18:57

pghstochaj

3,837 posts

150 months

jimbo761 said:
I recently set up an Anker SOLIX C300X as a UPS for my CityFibre ONT and router, mainly as a "just in case" purchase.

Turns out the timing was good. During the latest power cut the local phone mast went down too, so there was no mobile signal and no 5G at all. A lot of people assume their phone is the backup when the broadband drops, but if the masts lose power you've got nothing.

The SOLIX kept the ONT and router running with no interruption, so I still had WiFi and could use WiFi calling. The C300X is compact, quiet, and easily powers a router and ONT for around 9 hours, give or take.
If you want this, instead of spending £200 for 9 hours you can get bt broadband back up devices for about £30 from
EBay which power an ONT and Deco Mesh unit for 7 hours. Just make sure you buy it one of the white ones and make sure you get one with a splitter cable included.

jimbo761

524 posts

113 months

pghstochaj said:
jimbo761 said:
I recently set up an Anker SOLIX C300X as a UPS for my CityFibre ONT and router, mainly as a "just in case" purchase.

Turns out the timing was good. During the latest power cut the local phone mast went down too, so there was no mobile signal and no 5G at all. A lot of people assume their phone is the backup when the broadband drops, but if the masts lose power you've got nothing.

The SOLIX kept the ONT and router running with no interruption, so I still had WiFi and could use WiFi calling. The C300X is compact, quiet, and easily powers a router and ONT for around 9 hours, give or take.
If you want this, instead of spending £200 for 9 hours you can get bt broadband back up devices for about £30 from
EBay which power an ONT and Deco Mesh unit for 7 hours. Just make sure you buy it one of the white ones and make sure you get one with a splitter cable included.
Good shout, and much cheaper. Those are the CyberPower units BT supplies for Digital Voice, with a 12V 7Ah battery, so 7 hours for an ONT and a Deco sounds about right. Worth checking before buying used, though: they're lead-acid, so an old one may have lost a lot of capacity (replacement batteries are cheap). Also make sure both your ONT and router run on 12V with the same barrel plug, or the splitter won't help. The C300X is overkill purely for networking, but it also charges phones and laptops and has mains sockets, which is why I went that way.

pghstochaj

3,837 posts

150 months

jimbo761 said:
pghstochaj said:
jimbo761 said:
I recently set up an Anker SOLIX C300X as a UPS for my CityFibre ONT and router, mainly as a "just in case" purchase.

Turns out the timing was good. During the latest power cut the local phone mast went down too, so there was no mobile signal and no 5G at all. A lot of people assume their phone is the backup when the broadband drops, but if the masts lose power you've got nothing.

The SOLIX kept the ONT and router running with no interruption, so I still had WiFi and could use WiFi calling. The C300X is compact, quiet, and easily powers a router and ONT for around 9 hours, give or take.
If you want this, instead of spending £200 for 9 hours you can get bt broadband back up devices for about £30 from
EBay which power an ONT and Deco Mesh unit for 7 hours. Just make sure you buy it one of the white ones and make sure you get one with a splitter cable included.
Good shout, and much cheaper. Those are the CyberPower units BT supplies for Digital Voice, with a 12V 7Ah battery, so 7 hours for an ONT and a Deco sounds about right. Worth checking before buying used, though: they're lead-acid, so an old one may have lost a lot of capacity (replacement batteries are cheap). Also make sure both your ONT and router run on 12V with the same barrel plug, or the splitter won't help. The C300X is overkill purely for networking, but it also charges phones and laptops and has mains sockets, which is why I went that way.
You don’t want the cyberpower ones (black) with lead acid batteries you want the newer white units with li-ion type batteries.

It’s a few minutes to change the barrel plug if you don’t have a bt/ee router either with a converter or wire on a new one.

It also has a usb c socket but I don’t recall the capacity.

megaphone

11,717 posts

282 months

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Surely Time Machine back-up on to a NAS is all you need? Then an iCloud or similar off site back-up solution.

Auto Artisan

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megaphone said:
Surely Time Machine back-up on to a NAS is all you need? Then an iCloud or similar off site back-up solution.
Possibly but you can never be too careful.

Steve_H80

633 posts

53 months

Backups are something I'm fanatical about because I've a huge collection of photographs etc which can't be replaced.
I've two old hard drives that I update in every couple of months, one of which lives away from home. I also use a cloud service (pcloud) which mirrors everything on the laptops, and a backup programe and drive that I use daily or weekly.
Drive failures and ransom attacks are rare these days but they do happen.

K50 DEL

9,776 posts

259 months

Steve_H80 said:
Backups are something I'm fanatical about because I've a huge collection of photographs etc which can't be replaced.
I've two old hard drives that I update in every couple of months, one of which lives away from home. I also use a cloud service (pcloud) which mirrors everything on the laptops, and a backup programe and drive that I use daily or weekly.
Drive failures and ransom attacks are rare these days but they do happen.
I'm kind of the same, I have a NAS at my home which is my primary storage device, it has live sync running to a second NAS at a family member's house in the next town. Sync is set both ways so her files are safe as well. Both devices have RAID so a drive failure won't kill anything and then we both have airgapped USB drive backups too.