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People do realise this is a SWITCH yes? You can turn it off if you want.
I know it's a bit foggy this week,but if you are in a line of 20 cars you don't need to tell me it's foggy, I'm right behind you in traffic.
Whyc ant people just turn them off?
I'm convinced some morons think you turn it off with your lights!
I know it's a bit foggy this week,but if you are in a line of 20 cars you don't need to tell me it's foggy, I'm right behind you in traffic.
Whyc ant people just turn them off?
I'm convinced some morons think you turn it off with your lights!
Bill said:
Look on the bright side, at least they have lights on.
Absolutely right, I think part of the problem is auto lights, many assume that their lights come on in foggy conditions and don’t have the wit to turn on their fog lights. I was surprised by a car yesterday that was crawling along with no lights on at all, visibility was under 50m, it was a dark coloured Tesla and suddenly appeared out of the gloom. I think these idiots think if they can see they can be seen. I’m constantly disappointed by the awful driving standards on show, especially in poor conditions.
Tuftie said:
Bill said:
Look on the bright side, at least they have lights on.
Absolutely right, I think part of the problem is auto lights, many assume that their lights come on in foggy conditions and don t have the wit to turn on their fog lights. I was surprised by a car yesterday that was crawling along with no lights on at all, visibility was under 50m, it was a dark coloured Tesla and suddenly appeared out of the gloom. I think these idiots think if they can see they can be seen. I m constantly disappointed by the awful driving standards on show, especially in poor conditions.
I nearly did it myself when I left during daylight the other day. Realised as I pulled away that the lights were not on, and it was pretty foggy - but it would have been very easy for me to not have noticed
Chubbyross said:
Bill said:
Look on the bright side, at least they have lights on.
Exactly! I was on the A1(M) last weekend, foggy as hell and I reckon 95% of the cars had no lights on at all. Morons. I had this on Sunday just gone, yes there were foggy patches but visibility was around 300mts or so, so i can maybe understand it, but when you come out of the foggy patch into bright sunshine for the next 15 miles, turn the flipping thing off!!
Was thinking about this, this morning going to work, don't know how people can not realise, that if you can clearly see and differentiate between someone's rear side lights and brake lights even in fog, you don't need your rear fog light on, and you are able to turn it off when you get into traffic. Loads of people sat in nose to tail traffic waiting to cross the Tyne bridge, sat with their rear fog lights on for absolutely no reason, you could still see 500 yards down the road even with the the small amount of fog we had.
I switched my auto headlights to dipped in the mist to bring on the rear lights, as it was daylight and not misty enough to bring them on automatically.
99.9% of people will not be aware of what the auto lights do, are doing, or why they would ever need to switch them to manual.
Despite visibility being over 200m or so, and cars easily seen, there were quite a few people with rear fog lights on on the motorway.
Some did actually switch them off after a flash of the main beam and a some flashes of the front fogs.
The ones who left them on are presumably unaware of what the purpose of the fog light is. It is rare that fog is thick enough to require them. It is even more rare that front fogs are required.
If cars can be seen some distance ahead, the rear fog light is not needed....
Many modern cars have quite intense tail lights anyway.
99.9% of people will not be aware of what the auto lights do, are doing, or why they would ever need to switch them to manual.
Despite visibility being over 200m or so, and cars easily seen, there were quite a few people with rear fog lights on on the motorway.
Some did actually switch them off after a flash of the main beam and a some flashes of the front fogs.
The ones who left them on are presumably unaware of what the purpose of the fog light is. It is rare that fog is thick enough to require them. It is even more rare that front fogs are required.
If cars can be seen some distance ahead, the rear fog light is not needed....
Many modern cars have quite intense tail lights anyway.
In my skoda, audi, and Transit you have to switch the lights dial from Auto to manual (which to be honest, itsn't clear - which is side lights and which is main lights? - I do know, but I know it wasn't clear when I 1st looked) - Then, you have to pull the knob outwards to turn on 1st front fogs, then additionally, rears.
Its acually not that obvious, and certainly not intuitive, not like old fashoined cars with seperate fog buttons.
You have to turn yout lights off to then turn them on, and add fogs. Seems a bit of a mess to me.
My assumtion with prople driving with no lights at all / side lights/DRLs only is simply assuming auto lights will work in dimpsy/foggy conditions, which they don't. I override the auto lights on my cars when visibility is poor but still light. You can bet your ass many don't.
As for leaving fogs in after its gone - that's been a thing since forever, though the way fogs work now it should be less common, as when you get home your car will bing bong untill you turn all the lights off / back to auto (so, maybe that dial & pull control DOES make sense!? :-) ) - and leaving them on when in long lines of traffic - TBH - be glad you can see them - you can't really expect people to be actively toggling their fogs depending on car spacing. Ideal world - yes of course, reality - not really.
Its acually not that obvious, and certainly not intuitive, not like old fashoined cars with seperate fog buttons.
You have to turn yout lights off to then turn them on, and add fogs. Seems a bit of a mess to me.
My assumtion with prople driving with no lights at all / side lights/DRLs only is simply assuming auto lights will work in dimpsy/foggy conditions, which they don't. I override the auto lights on my cars when visibility is poor but still light. You can bet your ass many don't.
As for leaving fogs in after its gone - that's been a thing since forever, though the way fogs work now it should be less common, as when you get home your car will bing bong untill you turn all the lights off / back to auto (so, maybe that dial & pull control DOES make sense!? :-) ) - and leaving them on when in long lines of traffic - TBH - be glad you can see them - you can't really expect people to be actively toggling their fogs depending on car spacing. Ideal world - yes of course, reality - not really.
Edited by Griffith4ever on Tuesday 10th November 08:19
KingNothing said:
Was thinking about this, this morning going to work, don't know how people can not realise, that if you can clearly see and differentiate between someone's rear side lights and brake lights even in fog, you don't need your rear fog light on, and you are able to turn it off when you get into traffic. Loads of people sat in nose to tail traffic waiting to cross the Tyne bridge, sat with their rear fog lights on for absolutely no reason, you could still see 500 yards down the road even with the the small amount of fog we had.
Yep. The lack of thought by many is very apparent. Modern rear lights are so bright these days fog lights are largely redundant.
Also shows folk don't look at the dash much as it usually lights up there too.
I get it when it's bad or quiet, but sat in a line of cars you don't really need it on do you, and they never respond to being main beam flashed either, no surprise there I guess.
I should not be surprised, but to make the thought to turn it on, must mean it's on the your mind, so I can only presume they think it has to be on and you cant turn it off.
But again, the lack of awareness of the word switch is hilarious.
I get it when it's bad or quiet, but sat in a line of cars you don't really need it on do you, and they never respond to being main beam flashed either, no surprise there I guess.
I should not be surprised, but to make the thought to turn it on, must mean it's on the your mind, so I can only presume they think it has to be on and you cant turn it off.
But again, the lack of awareness of the word switch is hilarious.
There's a difference between fog where your visibility is seriously reduced/less than 100m, to a mildly swirly mist in the distance which triggers the general populace to switch on their rear fog lights.
Fog lights should be like tarts knickers - on and off with patches of visibility.
Fog lights should be like tarts knickers - on and off with patches of visibility.
John D. said:
Yep. The lack of thought by many is very apparent.
Modern rear lights are so bright these days fog lights are largely redundant.
I agree.Modern rear lights are so bright these days fog lights are largely redundant.
The cars do so much automatically (albeit not always very well), that people become accustomed to not actively thinking about many things.
It is extremely rare that tail lights can not be seen from a significant distance away, but again, how many people ever consciously think about something like car fog lights, unless they suddenly see "Fog" on a matrix board?
(Similarly for driving on snow or ice)
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