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Dog Biscuit

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2,806 posts

28 months

Yesterday (08:30)
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Automated gate sensors misting up in damp or frosty weather – any solutions?

We've got an automated gate which is becoming a bit of a pain whenever the weather is damp or frosty.

My wife normally leaves for work first thing in the morning and quite often the gate opens but then refuses to close.

The problem seems to be one side of the safety beam sensors misting up or frosting over. The gate then thinks something is obstructing the beam and won't close.

I've attached a couple of pictures showing the sender and receiver.

Has anyone experienced this and found a way of preventing it? Is there some sort of coating, cover or other solution that might help?

It's not exactly a busy location where we live, but I'd still rather the gate closed automatically instead of having to keep going outside and wiping the sensor!

Any suggestions appreciated.






markymarkthree

3,707 posts

202 months

Yesterday (08:35)
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Would some silicone spray, repel the moisture ?

NDA

25,793 posts

256 months

Yesterday (08:35)
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If it's definitely mist/water causing the problem (although I never had this with several electric gates), I wonder if you could put a little roof over the sensor? Quite easy to experiment with some cardboard or plastic before making it a permanent thing.

XF-Andy

432 posts

157 months

Yesterday (08:44)
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Would rainX or one of the glaco coatings help?

Edited by XF-Andy on Tuesday 10th November 10:49

Regbuser

7,068 posts

66 months

Yesterday (08:49)
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Googling Nice gate problems and solutions, AI slop offers:



And links to https://gaterepairer.co.uk/nice-gate-repairs/

ARH

2,172 posts

270 months

Yesterday (08:54)
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smear a bit of washing up liquid on the lens.

JimM169

839 posts

153 months

Yesterday (09:04)
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As above is it definitely the mist\moisture that's causing the issue and not early morning sun shining on the sensor.

M1AGM

5,324 posts

63 months

Yesterday (09:41)
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JimM169 said:
As above is it definitely the mist\moisture that's causing the issue and not early morning sun shining on the sensor.
I'm thinking this. Never had an issue with electric gates and moisture on the sensors causing a problem. Or the sensors have a fault/ingress.

Dog Biscuit

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2,806 posts

28 months

Yesterday (10:07)
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Its deffo the moisture on the outside of the battery operated receiver mounted on the far post.

I give it a wipe and it closes no problem

Regbuser

7,068 posts

66 months

Yesterday (10:30)
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Well, you've got the solution:

Issue the wife a roll of kitchen towel, with instructions to wipe the sensor

Let us know how that goes.. hehe

Philvrs

802 posts

128 months

Yesterday (11:12)
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XF-Andy said:
Would rainX or one of the glaco coatings help?

Edited by XF-Andy on Tuesday 10th November 10:49
RainX plastic version, standard stuff will damage plastics.

outnumbered

4,888 posts

265 months

Yesterday (15:29)
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You've said you can clear it by wiping the outside, it might be worth checking inside the sensor to see if there's any buildup of crud that's degrading its operation, so the misting is the just "last straw" that stops it working. One of mine became intermittent last year, and it turned out to be full of tiny dead insects.

OIC

657 posts

24 months

Yesterday (15:35)
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Silicon grease spray.

Job jobbied.

worsy

6,623 posts

206 months

Yesterday (15:46)
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I have swing gates so not familiar with how a sliding gate is set up. Do the sensors not work on a gate open activity then?

FourWheelDrift

92,387 posts

315 months

Yesterday (16:02)
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Rain-X Rain Repellent sprayed on them.

Dog Biscuit

Original Poster:

2,806 posts

28 months

Yesterday (19:23)
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Thanks for the input

I've tried the silicone spray wiped over it - that was yesterday and made no difference

I do wonder given the distance between the TX/RX (About 6M) is enoough to make the signal very weak and therefore blocked by a little condensation?

I'll look into the photocell specs and see what the jumper pin placement can offer.

First world problems I know, but still...smile

andyxxx

1,423 posts

258 months

Yesterday (20:04)
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Is it only that right hand side that gets an issue?
If so I would say a sloping hood above it should sort.
If it is both sides; could it be condensation because it is mounted on metal? – if so experiment with some rubber or wood between the metal gate post and sensor?

I have never had the problem (Mounted on stone) in any kind of weather

Dog Biscuit

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2,806 posts

28 months

Yesterday (20:08)
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andyxxx said:
Is it only that right hand side that gets an issue?
If so I would say a sloping hood above it should sort.
If it is both sides; could it be condensation because it is mounted on metal? if so experiment with some rubber or wood between the metal gate post and sensor?

I have never had the problem (Mounted on stone) in any kind of weather
Its the one on the RHS. Thats the battery powered Receiver. The other end is always fine and doesn't attract the moisture as its well shielded by the shadow from the shed. Youcan see the unaffected one in the pics - the one mounted close to the motor drive module


595Heaven

3,501 posts

109 months

Yesterday (20:17)
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Are you sure it’s not a battery problem? Cold weather isn’t kind to batteries, so might be worth replacing the battery / batteries

Jon_Bmw

707 posts

233 months

Yesterday (21:29)
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The design of the receiver does look slightly sub-optimal as it would guide drops of water right in front of the critical point of the sensor. I guess it is to stop it pooling on the top.

I fitted a "Roger Technology" sliding gate kit to our house and it probably has around a 5.5m span between transmitter and receiver on the inside of the gate and they are mounted on metal posts. No issues, although I have had to repair the CAT5 cable in the junction box that I used to wire in the infared and anti crush safety edges a few times in the last 6 years.

I would try the suggestion above about temporarily covering it. A taped upside down takeaway box for the ultimate in temporary classy solution?