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I was recently having a chat with my step daughter and her boy friend about the decline in pubs, we were looking for one for a evening meal and a few drinks, they are both mid 20's.
Anyway they said that there age group dont really drink due to the price, and most are drug takers, now weed etc didnt surprise me, but no apparently the drug of choice is now fentanyl, and they were telling me of the horrible side effects of it.
I must be very naive as while i new it was a problem in the usa, i had no idea it was here.
They were telling me they know personally at least a dozen people who use it regularly.
I know weed use has grown as i smell it everywhere now.
For those that dont know, its a horse tranquilizer.
how the world has changed since the 80's when i was down the pub with my mates drinking snakebite.
Anyway they said that there age group dont really drink due to the price, and most are drug takers, now weed etc didnt surprise me, but no apparently the drug of choice is now fentanyl, and they were telling me of the horrible side effects of it.
I must be very naive as while i new it was a problem in the usa, i had no idea it was here.
They were telling me they know personally at least a dozen people who use it regularly.
I know weed use has grown as i smell it everywhere now.
For those that dont know, its a horse tranquilizer.
how the world has changed since the 80's when i was down the pub with my mates drinking snakebite.
richhead said:
I was recently having a chat with my step daughter and her boy friend about the decline in pubs, we were looking for one for a evening meal and a few drinks, they are both mid 20's.
Anyway they said that there age group dont really drink due to the price, and most are drug takers, now weed etc didnt surprise me, but no apparently the drug of choice is now fentanyl, and they were telling me of the horrible side effects of it.
I must be very naive as while i new it was a problem in the usa, i had no idea it was here.
They were telling me they know personally at least a dozen people who use it regularly.
I know weed use has grown as i smell it everywhere now.
For those that dont know, its a horse tranquilizer.
how the world has changed since the 80's when i was down the pub with my mates drinking snakebite.
You’ve got your drugs mixed up, you are talking about ket (ketamine), very different to fentanyl. Anyway they said that there age group dont really drink due to the price, and most are drug takers, now weed etc didnt surprise me, but no apparently the drug of choice is now fentanyl, and they were telling me of the horrible side effects of it.
I must be very naive as while i new it was a problem in the usa, i had no idea it was here.
They were telling me they know personally at least a dozen people who use it regularly.
I know weed use has grown as i smell it everywhere now.
For those that dont know, its a horse tranquilizer.
how the world has changed since the 80's when i was down the pub with my mates drinking snakebite.
Due to a morphine allergy I was given some fentanyl after some surgery about 18 months ago, it is scary s
t! The pain disappeared like someone had flicked a switch, it's that powerful.
Before it was administered I asked if fentanyl was the stuff that was killing everyone in the US? The doctor confirmed that it was indeed killing lots of junkies but I wasn't to worry as they were on a roll and hadn't had anyone die that week...

t! The pain disappeared like someone had flicked a switch, it's that powerful. Before it was administered I asked if fentanyl was the stuff that was killing everyone in the US? The doctor confirmed that it was indeed killing lots of junkies but I wasn't to worry as they were on a roll and hadn't had anyone die that week...


richhead said:
JQ said:
You ve got your drugs mixed up, you are talking about ket (ketamine), very different to fentanyl.
You may be right, 20 somethings are into ket, but the younger generation have seen the results (colostomy bags and agony passing liquids) and are far more cautious.
Tango13 said:
Due to a morphine allergy I was given some fentanyl after some surgery about 18 months ago, it is scary s
t! The pain disappeared like someone had flicked a switch, it's that powerful.
Before it was administered I asked if fentanyl was the stuff that was killing everyone in the US? The doctor confirmed that it was indeed killing lots of junkies but I wasn't to worry as they were on a roll and hadn't had anyone die that week...

t! The pain disappeared like someone had flicked a switch, it's that powerful. Before it was administered I asked if fentanyl was the stuff that was killing everyone in the US? The doctor confirmed that it was indeed killing lots of junkies but I wasn't to worry as they were on a roll and hadn't had anyone die that week...


Yes Fentanyl works extremely quickly compared to morphine. Taking it as a recreation drug is just mental!
JQ said:
I am.
20 somethings are into ket, but the younger generation have seen the results (colostomy bags and agony passing liquids) and are far more cautious.
Yes those are the things that shocked me.20 somethings are into ket, but the younger generation have seen the results (colostomy bags and agony passing liquids) and are far more cautious.
Ive never been a drug user, other than i drink a little, so im a bit in my own little world.
richhead said:
JQ said:
I am.
20 somethings are into ket, but the younger generation have seen the results (colostomy bags and agony passing liquids) and are far more cautious.
Yes those are the things that shocked me.20 somethings are into ket, but the younger generation have seen the results (colostomy bags and agony passing liquids) and are far more cautious.
Ive never been a drug user, other than i drink a little, so im a bit in my own little world.
I recommend the Netflix Documentary with flics of reality series painkiller
https://www.netflix.com/title/81095069
Not the same- but as troubling.
Fentanyl is bulldozing through society similarly
https://www.netflix.com/title/81095069
Not the same- but as troubling.
Fentanyl is bulldozing through society similarly
Landlubber said:
Ketamine is indeed a horse tranquiliser, fentanyl is an extremely potent pain killer, very, very easy to get wrong and its goodnight Vienna when you od.
Ketamine has been used on humans for a long time (as well as horses) its a potent pain killer and a disassociative, Paramedics and army field medics carry it.Also used therapeutically for depression and anxiety but results are a mixed bag
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