Are Japanese cars higher to insure than German?
Are Japanese cars higher to insure than German?
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StuA9

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234 posts

249 months

Yesterday (15:45)
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That's what I'm finding as in dam near double.
For instance for me an old 08 A6 estate 2.7 tdi £350 a year ago 14 reg Nissan Pulsar 1.5dci £640. Granted I've had the A6 a few years longer than the Nissan but still.

Is that normal or no.

alpinab3

240 posts

220 months

Yesterday (15:47)
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Too many variables involved. Length of ownership makes a big difference but kind of person owns a Pulsar usually can't drive which makes the risk profile riskier.

CubanPete

3,820 posts

219 months

Yesterday (16:32)
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2010 320d M Sport (£3k) 10 years NCD £220
2012 1.8 MX5 (£5k) 0 years NCD £180

Both my cars same address, same annual mileage.

StuA9

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234 posts

249 months

Yesterday (17:40)
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alpinab3 said:
Too many variables involved. Length of ownership makes a big difference but kind of person owns a Pulsar usually can't drive which makes the risk profile riskier.
Had the A6 11 years and Nissan 7 same address max nc's no idea why the difference.

Super Sonic

14,828 posts

85 months

Yesterday (17:48)
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StuA9 said:
Had the A6 11 years and Nissan 7 same address max nc's no idea why the difference.
It's because they're different cars.

StuA9

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234 posts

249 months

Yesterday (18:38)
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alpinab3 said:
Too many variables involved. Length of ownership makes a big difference but kind of person owns a Pulsar usually can't drive which makes the risk profile riskier.
Had the A6 11 years and Nissan 7 same address max nc's no idea why the difference.

StuA9

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234 posts

249 months

Yesterday (18:42)
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Super Sonic said:
It's because they're different cars.
I know that but one's a small Jap light engined commuter the other a larger estate nearly 3.0 twin turbo auto. The folk i work with don't get it either. .

edc

9,693 posts

282 months

Yesterday (20:21)
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I've had Porsche and AMG but the most expensive car I have had to insure is a Hyundai ...

StuA9

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234 posts

249 months

Yesterday (20:42)
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Just what's going on.

Ifinishposts

1,633 posts

168 months

Yesterday (21:02)
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I have stopped trying to figure out car insurance, so many variables to consider.

My wife had a Yaris, 3 cylinder, 0.9 L. Bought it during covid so could not take it on a decent test drive for some reason.
She had it a few weeks and suddenly announced that she hated how underpowered it was. The dealer we got it from bought it back as it was good stock for him.

She liked the Yaris as a car and we spotted a 1.8L SR model, a 'warm hatch'. It went much better so it was purchased.

I rang the insurance to swap the details over and they announced that we were due a small refund. I was shocked and questioned why, the woman on the phone said the demographic of the type of person that can afford to buy and run a lower powered car was a greater risk than an older person who could afford the higher powered car?

Derry Rhumba

374 posts

22 months

Yesterday (21:05)
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StuA9 said:
That's what I'm finding as in dam near double.
For instance for me an old 08 A6 estate 2.7 tdi £350 a year ago 14 reg Nissan Pulsar 1.5dci £640. Granted I've had the A6 a few years longer than the Nissan but still.

Is that normal or no.
No, not normal.

Hope that helps.

kambites

71,701 posts

252 months

I suspect parts availability will play a part. Along with sociodemographic factors of typical owners of each car.

brillomaster

1,911 posts

201 months

I suspect big estate cars are seen as far, far less risky cars to insure than small hatchbacks, both in who drives them and where, when and how they are driven.

Also id imagine an old estate car is worth a bit less than a newer hatchback, but could be wrong there.

V8forweekends

2,506 posts

155 months

brillomaster said:
I suspect big estate cars are seen as far, far less risky cars to insure than small hatchbacks, both in who drives them and where, when and how they are driven.

Also id imagine an old estate car is worth a bit less than a newer hatchback, but could be wrong there.
When I acquired a 2003 Mercedes S211 E320 CDI, i called Direct Line to add it to my policy and they refused (i am in my 60s with full NCD etc).
Apparently they refuse to cover anything with more than 200 hp that is more than 20 years old.
I had to move both daily cars and my house insurance to a different insurer.

WPA

14,856 posts

145 months

Complete opposite for me, always found Japanese cars the cheapest to insure whilst VAG group / BMW always more expensive for me

StuA9

Original Poster:

234 posts

249 months

Ifinishposts said:
I rang the insurance to swap the details over and they announced that we were due a small refund. I was shocked and questioned why, the woman on the phone said the demographic of the type of person that can afford to buy and run a lower powered car was a greater risk than an older person who could afford the higher powered car?
That is bloody crazy so they're saying anybody that can buy and run a small engined hatch are a higher risk.
I think most of them make up their own bamy rules.

braddo

12,405 posts

219 months

StuA9 said:
That is bloody crazy so they're saying anybody that can buy and run a small engined hatch are a higher risk.
I think most of them make up their own bamy rules.
It is the opposite to barmy rules. The quotes are based on mountains of data.

Get quotes for similar vehicles to yours from the other country, ie a Jap estate the same age as your A6 and a Golf hatch the same spec as your pulsar.

bloomen

10,269 posts

190 months

Not sure about other marques, but Toyota/ Lexus don't appear to give much of a toss about security.

JLR plugged some of the most gaping holes, perhaps because their vehicles were becoming uninsurable.

Not much of a peep out of Toyota despite many of their models being world champs in theft rates.