GT3 crashes at Ring
GT3 crashes at Ring
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paulcundy

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294 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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http://www.20832.com/renn.tv/VLN8_Bilstein_Land.wmv


Driver was ok, drove home in his other GT3



Posted on USA Noble forum. He was shifting.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Ouch! Looked like it was seriously in the air at one point after the crash. Glad he was ok!

J

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Jesus! - muchos Deutsch marks!

Although my German is not so good I did get one word OK!!!

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

272 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Bugger I can't get it all to play. It is buffering and then stops completely.

Is it me or did it sound as though there was a blow out before he lost it?

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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alloypearltam said:
Bugger I can't get it all to play. It is buffering and then stops completely.

Is it me or did it sound as though there was a blow out before he lost it?



It's funny you should say that. That thought didn't occur to me, but there was a strange noise prior to him loosing the back, so it fits.

The thing that I sort of "felt" was that he was taking quite a bit of those kerbs. It looked like everyone else was too, by the tyre marks. They seemed a bit steep.

Perhaps his tyres had had enough of the kerbs.

I think that the moment of freakout for me was the car at 90 degrees to the road, going backwards.

How fast do we think that was? It wasn't slow, whatever.

Ouch.


>> Edited by dilbert on Sunday 23 October 10:51

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Some sort of sound just before it goes - it has to be a failure or something on the road of some sort, his line was fine IMHO.

In the same vein at Spa. Apparently down to coolant on the exit of Eau Rouge.

From the car: www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/movies/Spa2005_crash.wmv

From the car behind: www.bookatrack.com/-PFexboyracer285824164?exboyracer&2858&24164&video/mpeg

J

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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joust said:
Some sort of sound just before it goes - it has to be a failure or something on the road of some sort, his line was fine IMHO.

In the same vein at Spa. Apparently down to coolant on the exit of Eau Rouge.

From the car: <a href="www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/movies/Spa2005_crash.wmv">www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/movies</a>

From the car behind: <a href="www.bookatrack.com/-PFexboyracer285824164?exboyracer&2858&24164&video/mpeg">www.bookatrack.com/-PFexboyracer28</a>

J



Nothing like a good bit of banger racing eh!

I think the first chap (at the ring), though his accident was more serious, could be excused his faults compared with those two!

>> Edited by dilbert on Sunday 23 October 12:25

paulcundy

Original Poster:

1,897 posts

294 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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joust said:
Some sort of sound just before it goes - it has to be a failure or something on the road of some sort, his line was fine IMHO.

In the same vein at Spa. Apparently down to coolant on the exit of Eau Rouge.

From the car: www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/movies

From the car behind: www.bookatrack.com/-PFexboyracer28

J


The original USA thread says he had a rear blow out. Looks like it to me.
Regards
PauL C

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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crikey that noble crash made me feel a bit sick, looks like he knew his way around, agree with the funny noise just before the car let go. Roll seemed to happen in slow motion, good to see the driver swearing and cursing afterwards, shows he was ok right away .. always a good sign to see a driver swearing ater a crash.

phew, took my breath away.

paulcundy

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Sunday 23rd October 2005
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trackcar said:
crikey that noble crash .


No wonder he crashed, he was driving from the wrong side of the car - clue - it was a German Porsche GT3, not a Noble. No Noble I know of has flappy paddles.

On the Spa videos can anyone see any flags being waved to forewarn them of the coolant spill? Looks at least like some pretty poor marshalling may have contributed.
Regards
PauL C

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Climey, those VLN racers shift don't they! I was out there 2 weeks ago and came accross this in wipperman, had just happened, everyone was out the car and walking around though.



ouch!

the Spa crash has made me rethink my track insurance though as I haven't bothered at all this year.

robp

2,097 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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and I used to love Eau Rouge. Just plain scared now.

havoc

33,308 posts

264 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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joust said:

From the car behind: www.bookatrack.com/-PFexboyracer28

J

Just looked at the reference there - ex-b-r is the pseudonym a guy I know off the Honda forum, and that looked like a Prelude...bloody hell!

Does anyone know if that's recent?
[Off to HondaRevs to find out...]

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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It was 2 weeks ago on tuesday and it was not a uk registered car, I beleive it was somefrom from Honda-r.

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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paulcundy said:



No wonder he crashed, he was driving from the wrong side of the car - clue - it was a German Porsche GT3, not a Noble.
PauL C


ah, posted in a noble forum so didn't look too closely at the bonnet badge.

havoc

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264 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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m12_nathan said:
It was 2 weeks ago on tuesday and it was not a uk registered car, I beleive it was somefrom from Honda-r.

Just checked Honda-R, and yeah - it was Dave (ex-b-r), plus a dutchman on Honda-R, Ivo, also had some grief at the same spot (earlier???) and buggered the bodywork all down the LHS.

The 7-driver suffered broken ribs, believed to be from the wheel, not from the impact of the 'lude.

The Honda guys, while rather gutted, were OK.

Comment from another driver that day:-
Richy said:
There really was nothing that Dave or the marshalls could have done any different...you had to be there to really apreciate that fact.
The sun was very bright on the track surface and the huge coolant spillage was dumped after the marshalls post at the crest/left of Le Raidillon. There were no visible clues as to it's presents and by the time it was visible you were already fully commited to the racing line.

From coolant drop to Red flag I would estimate only 30-40 seconds or so all in.
I went through aprox 15-20 seconds before the Caterham and Dave and consider myself extremely fortunate to have not had a similar accident.
It was unbelievably slippery up there but I was lucky as it just so happened that my wheels ran just about either side of the majority of the drop fluids.
Once through it I backed out of it and decided I was going in until it had been cleared up...then the Reds came on.

Thankfully all concerned only have relatively minor injuries and for that you have to thank the fact that the whole thing happened on track in a very safe enviroment.

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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This is an external view of the damage. Car looks remarkably good considering!

s3am

1,383 posts

281 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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paulcundy said:
it was a German Porsche GT3, not a Noble. No Noble I know of has flappy paddles.

Nor does any GT3 I know of either

paulcundy

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Sunday 23rd October 2005
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s3am said:


paulcundy said:
it was a German Porsche GT3, not a Noble. No Noble I know of has flappy paddles.



Nor does any GT3 I know of either



Well the camera doesnt lie, they are certainly there, but what they do? It is a Porsche from the inside trim?
He does seem to be changing gear with the gear lever?
Regards
Paul C


>> Edited by paulcundy on Sunday 23 October 19:51

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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They look like they might hold the buttons for pit communication and stuff like that? He seems to be pressing it when talking.