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pie in the sky stuff.. but can someone answer this? Our house has got a large conservatory, visible from the road/next door; so presumably this needed planning permission type stuff before erecting.
If one was going to removed it, could it be replaced by bricks & mortar (ie a proper extension) or is that a different kettle of fish needing further planning permisssion ?
Ed
If one was going to removed it, could it be replaced by bricks & mortar (ie a proper extension) or is that a different kettle of fish needing further planning permisssion ?
Ed
I'm no expect, and can only tell you what I know because we've just had a lot of work done, but you are allowed to extend your home by a certain percentage (don't know what that is off the top of my head) without needing planning permission. A conversatory is classed as a temporary building so it doesn't need planning permission.
However, that is all over ridden if you live in a conservation area.
The best bet is to ring your council planning department and ask them. You may even be able to get some information from the web.
However, that is all over ridden if you live in a conservation area.
The best bet is to ring your council planning department and ask them. You may even be able to get some information from the web.
Edt
Dont confuse building regs with planning permission.
You can erect extensions to a property up to a certain %age of original size without planning permission (subject to constraints including living in a conservation area etc.)
Planning regs (re conservatories) primarily concern the increase in heat loss due to the change of layout (i.e. conservatory loses more heat than a wall!!). For any conservatory recently completed regs require an external quality door (patio door) to be used to separate the conservatory from the house and the heating for the conservatory to be separate from the house.
I am no builder though (not sure if i am an expect though
)- just had a conservatory completed a couple of years ago. Do a search on google - proper info is easy to come by.
Dont confuse building regs with planning permission.
You can erect extensions to a property up to a certain %age of original size without planning permission (subject to constraints including living in a conservation area etc.)
Planning regs (re conservatories) primarily concern the increase in heat loss due to the change of layout (i.e. conservatory loses more heat than a wall!!). For any conservatory recently completed regs require an external quality door (patio door) to be used to separate the conservatory from the house and the heating for the conservatory to be separate from the house.
I am no builder though (not sure if i am an expect though
)- just had a conservatory completed a couple of years ago. Do a search on google - proper info is easy to come by.Mrs Trackside said:
A conversatory is classed as a temporary building so it doesn't need planning permission.
Oh no it isn't. It's the same as any other extension you may build.
Back to the original question. Best just talk to your local planning office. As others have said it's probably within your permitted building rights, but I can tell you that means little today (bitter, me? Never...).
Defo need building regs though.
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
Mrs Trackside said:
A conversatory is classed as a temporary building so it doesn't need planning permission.
Oh no it isn't. It's the same as any other extension you may build.
then my builder has misinformed me. Good job we didn't have that conservatory built after all!
The filthy scum that live off us will tell you anything cos they love causing trouble. Bottom line don't trust them. Getting planning permission and complying with buiding regs is not that hard. Do it, its much better than having problems when the slime try to pull your house down for no good reason. Remember all government workers are vermin. I was one once so I know.
As i'm doing a Masters in Commercial Building Surveying, I MAY be able to help. Any extension of a property will require planning permission. Even if it is below this percentage within which you are allowed to build without, I would STRONGLY recommend you get planning permission anyway, as people can be funny about these things. If you operate along strict guidlines set out by the authorities, you can't go wrong.
Just Google it for something called the 'Construction (Design and Management) Regulations' and this should tell you all you need to know.
Hope this helps.
Combover
Just Google it for something called the 'Construction (Design and Management) Regulations' and this should tell you all you need to know.
Hope this helps.
Combover
The extra amount permitted to be added to the ORIGINAL property area is normally 15%
If other extensions, non-original garages, etc have already been added, then these will be taken into acount when the calculations are worked out.
This is for additions actually built onto the house.
PS. Make sure you do any other maintenance work beforehand (guttering, soffits, wall insulation,etc), as they can be a pain to do once your conservatory is in place.
>> Edited by grahamw48 on Sunday 23 October 23:33
If other extensions, non-original garages, etc have already been added, then these will be taken into acount when the calculations are worked out.
This is for additions actually built onto the house.
PS. Make sure you do any other maintenance work beforehand (guttering, soffits, wall insulation,etc), as they can be a pain to do once your conservatory is in place.
>> Edited by grahamw48 on Sunday 23 October 23:33
Conservatory Planning permission is different I think to a standard extension .... ( The "U-Fit" conservatory website ( and many others ) has a lot of useful info - (its just that I've been doing some homework re a possible extension ).
IIRC : You do NOT need Planning Permission for a conservatory IF it meets certain conditions :
best to research yourself but this will give you an idea ....
- within permitted development envelope ( 70 cubic metres for a semi I think , 50 for a terraced house ( its the larger of the % allowance or the cubic meterage ))
- doesnt extend in front of the house
- must be more than 20 metres from a public road (e.g if a public road runs along side or back of your house from where the conservatory can be seen)
- less than "X" metres high (3? ) if less than "y" (2?) metres from your neighbour.
- separated from the main house by external doors.
- more than a certain % of walls and roof are clear (e.g : its not a "normal" extension.
You will also need to meet Building regs as others have mentioned
IIRC : You do NOT need Planning Permission for a conservatory IF it meets certain conditions :
best to research yourself but this will give you an idea ....
- within permitted development envelope ( 70 cubic metres for a semi I think , 50 for a terraced house ( its the larger of the % allowance or the cubic meterage ))
- doesnt extend in front of the house
- must be more than 20 metres from a public road (e.g if a public road runs along side or back of your house from where the conservatory can be seen)
- less than "X" metres high (3? ) if less than "y" (2?) metres from your neighbour.
- separated from the main house by external doors.
- more than a certain % of walls and roof are clear (e.g : its not a "normal" extension.
You will also need to meet Building regs as others have mentioned
Definitive rules here...
www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/groups/odpm_buildreg/documents/page/odpm_breg_609257.pdf
A fair bit has been said already, some of it right, some of it wrong. Just go by the definitive regs themselves. If it is an existing structure anyway, I wouldnt worry if it is more than two years old.
The bottom of page 18 and page 53 covers conservatories. Very simple, they are exempt.
If you want to take it down, and replace it with a proper extension of bricks and mortar, it will probably need building regs, although not neccessarily planning permission.
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Monday 24th October 10:18
www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/groups/odpm_buildreg/documents/page/odpm_breg_609257.pdf
A fair bit has been said already, some of it right, some of it wrong. Just go by the definitive regs themselves. If it is an existing structure anyway, I wouldnt worry if it is more than two years old.
The bottom of page 18 and page 53 covers conservatories. Very simple, they are exempt.
If you want to take it down, and replace it with a proper extension of bricks and mortar, it will probably need building regs, although not neccessarily planning permission.
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Monday 24th October 10:18
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