D70 and SB 600 speedlight help please
D70 and SB 600 speedlight help please
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meagain

Original Poster:

359 posts

248 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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awaiting delivery of an sb600 speedlight for the D70,

Might be a silly question but what are the benefits as compared to using the built in speedlight?

also does the sb600 act as a light meter if the camera is set to manual?

chim_knee

12,689 posts

275 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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meagain said:
Might be a silly question but what are the benefits as compared to using the built in speedlight?
I have the D70 and the SB600 and, genuinely, the answer here is "Loads".

The quality of the flash is SO much better, far less harsh, directable (directionable?) and therfore bounce-able. You can alter the power of the flash.

Just better in every respect IMHO (well, apart from the fact that the built in is smaller... but that counts for nowt IMHO).

Chalk and cheese really. I was really chuffed with the results when I got my SB600.

meagain

Original Poster:

359 posts

248 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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meagain said:


also does the sb600 act as a light meter if the camera is set to manual?


Just to rephrase what i mean by this.
If i set the camera to manual, does the speedlight automaticaly ajust the settings to suit the light conditions?...

Not sure if i understand this myself... Sorry...

simpo two

89,696 posts

283 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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meagain said:
Might be a silly question but what are the benefits as compared to using the built in speedlight?

Seems a funny question to ask after you've bought it!

To add to the other replies, the extra height of the flash above the lens significantly reduces the chance of red-eye.

meagain

Original Poster:

359 posts

248 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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[quote=simpo two]

Seems a funny question to ask after you've bought it!

Think everything i ask is a silly question... must be an age problem the senillity is creaping...

But thanks for the help anyway...

superlightr

12,916 posts

281 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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its so much better then the built in flash.

Had our daughters 1st birthday yesterday and I experimented some with the SB600 and some with the built in flash. Chalk and cheese. With the SB600 it gives a much less harsh light, and in fact takes a pic almost as you see it from your eyes. Much better colours and tones.

It adds a bit of weight but for indoor pics is vital and even with my ham fisted pics Im pleased with the results.

settings? dunno, left it on auto or portrait and flashed away !

when I get home I will post a couple of pics - even if your not interested! (any excuse to post a pic)


>> Edited by superlightr on Monday 24th October 14:00

meagain

Original Poster:

359 posts

248 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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always interested in seeing any pics. first thing i look for every day is to see whos posted what...

406

3,636 posts

271 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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You wanna try useing an 800 as a main and the 600 as a slave. Truly awsome

Dave

406

simpo two

89,696 posts

283 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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406 said:
You wanna try useing an 800 as a main and the 600 as a slave.

Though IIRC the SB600 doesn't support IR, so you'll need to wire it up or swap them round, surely?

406

3,636 posts

271 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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simpo two said:

406 said:
You wanna try useing an 800 as a main and the 600 as a slave.


Though IIRC the SB600 doesn't support IR, so you'll need to wire it up or swap them round, surely?


You use the SB800 and the main - using command and the SB600 as a slave. It's their "Creative" lighting system

simpo two

89,696 posts

283 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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406 said:
You use the SB800 and the main - using command and the SB600 as a slave. It's their "Creative" lighting system

'And' the main or 'as' the main? You mean the built-in Speedlight fires the remote SB800 which then fires the SB600 on-camera... er... not that won't work as it will stop the pop-up...

406

3,636 posts

271 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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simpo two said:

406 said:
You use the SB800 and the main - using command and the SB600 as a slave. It's their "Creative" lighting system


'And' the main or 'as' the main? You mean the built-in Speedlight fires the remote SB800 which then fires the SB600 on-camera... er... not that won't work as it will stop the pop-up...


Tsk, kids.......... I fit the SB800 to the D70 and atand the SB600 wherever I want to. The SB800 triggers the SB600. Alternatively, I can let the pop up lash trigger both.

simpo two

89,696 posts

283 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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406 said:
I fit the SB800 to the D70 and atand the SB600 wherever I want to. The SB800 triggers the SB600.

OK, so going back to my first post, the SB600 doesn't support IR, so you must be wiring them together physically, right?

406

3,636 posts

271 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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simpo two said:

406 said:
The SB800 triggers the SB600.


OK, so going back to my first post, the SB600 doesn't support IR, so you must be wiring them together physically, right?


Noooooooooooooooooooo The SB800 does it wirelessly

From the Nikon web Site

SB-800

New Speedlight SB-800 with wireless i-TTL flash control evolves the technology beyond the D-TTL of the D1 series, and introduces features that include Advanced Wireless Lighting -- wireless remote control over multiple flashes, Flash Value Lock (FV Lock), AUTO FP High-Speed Sync, and Flash Color Information Communication. Also new is the Wide Area AF Assist Illuminator that is tailored to the new D2H's 11-area Multi-CAM 2000 AF Sensor Module. Additional features include a built-in wide flash adapter for 14mm wideangle lens coverage, GN 38/53 (ISO 100/200, at 35mm), and flash coverage from 24mm up to 105mm when using the Auto Zoom function (in 5mm zoom steps between 35 and 105mm).

SB600

A new mid range Speedlight flash compatible with the D70 and D2H Creative Lighting System compatible cameras. Featuring Nikon's latest i-TTL monitor pre flash metering technology the SB-600 offers a powerful but attractively priced main flash for general photographic situations. The SB-600 also offers fully automatic exposure control when used in groups with other SB-600 Speedlights controlled either by a Master SB-800 or the new 'Commander' function of the new Nikon D70. Easy to use with simplified buttons and packed with practical functions to meet the lighting needs of the most creative digital photographer.










simpo two

89,696 posts

283 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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406 said:
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Thanks for the features list. I know the SB800 does it wirelessy, I was using my SB800 wirelessly a few days ago What it doesn't say it whether the SB600 can be fired wirelessly (my reference to 'IR').

I recall that when I was researching the SB600 and SB800, the 800 has a sensor to detect a flash from a master unit, but the 600 does not. So my query was simply 'are you connecting it with a synch cord or have you found a way to do it wirelessly'?

>> Edited by simpo two on Monday 24th October 20:56

406

3,636 posts

271 months

Monday 24th October 2005
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simpo two said:

406 said:
Lots of Useful Things



Thanks for the features list. I guess you really are Master Yoghurt


Aw Shucks, it's nothing that cant be found if you

simpo two

89,696 posts

283 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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simpo two said:
I recall that when I was researching the SB600 and SB800, the 800 has a sensor to detect a flash from a master unit, but the 600 does not. So my query was simply 'are you connecting it with a synch cord or have you found a way to do it wirelessly'?

Too busy eating yogurt to read that bit eh?

size13

2,032 posts

275 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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If that's the case with the SB600, why can't you use 2xSB600 and do the same thing for less cost?

john_p

7,073 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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www.nikon.com.sg/PRODUCT/FLASH/SB600.htm

"When used in combination with Nikon’s latest digital SLRs, the D70 or D2H, the SB-600 supports Advanced Wireless Lighting as a remote Speedlight that can be positioned as one of multiple remote flashes to significantly extend creative possibilities."

I think that clears it up. Thanks PH, you just made me spend another £120 on camera equipment