Lightweight LSD required - advice please

Lightweight LSD required - advice please

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InMyShed

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13 posts

223 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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I would like a light-weight limited slip diff, does anyone have some advice on which way to go? The car will be running on 13" wheels and will be powered by a 170bhp engine reving to about 11,000. Would an MX5 diff be any good? Do you know the weight of one?

>> Edited by InMyShed on Wednesday 26th October 16:02

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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I'm looking for something similar myself

The speed the engine revs at isn't that important (as the gearbox can vary drastically) but you'll need to know how much torque you intend to put through it

Best one I've found so far is the freelander one with uprated internals (quaife)

I assume it's IRS not a live axle or anything odd

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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The Torsen fitted to the 1.8 MX5 will take quite a bit of punishment. People are running more than 200bhp/200ftlb through them. (Avoid any 1.6 MX5 diffs for real power).

deltafox

3,839 posts

233 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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Torque biasing diff as fitted to the Focus rs 220?

grahambell

2,718 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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Judging by the revs I assume it's a bike engine.

In that case would a Quaife chain drive diff with reverse as used by Radical be any use?

If so I just happen to have one available.

cptsideways

13,552 posts

253 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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MX5 one like the one I have in my shed?

Just like this



Weight with the complete frame/support is about 25kg's diff only about 15kg's.

A 1.6 one is lighter, by quite a bit & will easily handle the torque from a bike engine. I've run 180-200bhp through one with some really serious abuse all year, only issues were driveshafts & that was my fault.

If you need an LSD I have one sat right here

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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cptsideways said:
MX5 one like the one I have in my shed?

[pic woz ere]

Weight with the complete frame/support is about 25kg's diff only about 15kg's.

A 1.6 one is lighter, by quite a bit & will easily handle the torque from a bike engine. I've run 180-200bhp through one with some really serious abuse all year, only issues were driveshafts & that was my fault.

If you need an LSD I have one sat right here



Is that a 1.8 torsen cptsideways or a 1.6 viscous. If thats a 1.8 torsen and your looking to shift it drop me a PM with a price.

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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Are these a lot lighter than a sierra xr4x4 diff?

Mark

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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dern said:
Are these a lot lighter than a sierra xr4x4 diff?

Mark
If the 15kg quoted by Cpt sideways is anywhere near accurate then by loads

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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Incorrigible said:

dern said:
Are these a lot lighter than a sierra xr4x4 diff?

Mark

If the 15kg quoted by Cpt sideways is anywhere near accurate then by loads
Buggrit... and I've just welded in the diff support

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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dern said:
Buggrit... and I've just welded in the diff support
Best get the slim fast out then

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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deltafox said:
Torque biasing diff as fitted to the Focus rs 220?
Quaife ATB diff is not exactly light IMO.

d-man

1,019 posts

246 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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I don't have much direct experience of BECs, but wouldn't a standard MX5 LSD have too short a ratio? They're 3.9:1 or 4.1:1 I think, compared to the Sierra or Freelander diffs at around 3.2 - 3.6:1 that most BECs seem to use. Might end up bouncing off the rev limiter in top if you're not careful.

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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Incorrigible said:

dern said:
Buggrit... and I've just welded in the diff support

Best get the slim fast out then


Hang on... how dare you!

InMyShed

Original Poster:

13 posts

223 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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Do all 1.8 Mazda MX5s have a LSD? If so, are they all the same type?

robbieduncan

1,981 posts

237 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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InMyShed said:
Do all 1.8 Mazda MX5s have a LSD? If so, are they all the same type?


As you can see here: www.mx-5.org/oxford/guide_mx5.htm Not all 1.8s have an LSD. Some special editions do and the recent 1.8iS models do.