Harness
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Noodle30

Original Poster:

46 posts

251 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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Thinking of fitting a harness to my chimaera for a number of reasons including the fact that the steering wheel doesnt look too soft, is there anyone who will fit this professionally?

zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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In which case you must fit a roll-over bar since the last thing you want is to be held in an upright position by a 4pt harness if the vehicle rolls and there's no rollover protection.

Rollcenter make a bar with harness mounting points and Tower View Racing fit them, complete with lower mounting points welded onto the chassis, so you get to keep the lap-and-shoulder belts as well, which is very convenient, since full harnesses are a PITA in everyday use.

This is what I have on my car.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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Check with your insurance before commiting to a roll bar as we have been told the premium will increase as they think you're going to track it more!!!!!
No clue have they - some people want it to save their life in the unfortunate event.
FFG

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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Insurance on mine wasnt effected when adding a roll bar with Mannings Insurance and Classic line before.
Havent got a Harness yet but belive the Willan Caterham one is used by Tower View whos Roll Bar I have.

BB

griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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I've got Tower View/Rollcentre and four point harnesses as well. Superb combination that not only surely increases safety but also holds you in to the seat making for better 'feel' when pressing on.

Insurance Co were a bit hesitant, but given it was professionally fitted haved only increased the excess a bit (goodness knows what logical process of actuarial analysis lead to that, but there you go...).

zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Check with your insurance before commiting to a roll bar as we have been told the premium will increase as they think you're going to track it more!!!!!


Mannings; No change.
Sunninghill; Increase in excess.

zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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Ballistic Banana said:
Insurance on mine wasn't affected when adding a roll bar with Mannings Insurance and Classic line before.
Havent got a Harness yet but belive the Willan Caterham one is used by Tower View whos Roll Bar I have.


I have Luke harnesses - the short type designed for Caterhams, with aircraft style buckles. I was recommended to get 4" straps, which I did - they're much more comfortable than narrower straps. I'm very pleased with them.

(BTW, the Tower View bar is actually made by Rollcentre.)

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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zumbruk said:

Ballistic Banana said:
Insurance on mine wasn't affected when adding a roll bar with Mannings Insurance and Classic line before.
Havent got a Harness yet but belive the Willan Caterham one is used by Tower View whos Roll Bar I have.



I have Luke harnesses - the short type designed for Caterhams, with aircraft style buckles. I was recommended to get 4" straps, which I did - they're much more comfortable than narrower straps. I'm very pleased with them.

(BTW, the Tower View bar is actually made by Rollcentre.)


Yeah I knew they made it, tried to buy one direct from them as they are only about 30mins from me... they told me to deal with Tower View

Where'd did you get the luke harness from?

BB

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

313 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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Ballistic Banana said:

tried to buy one direct from them as they are only about 30mins from me... they told me to deal with Tower View



Tower View hold the rights to the design so you can only buy this via Tower View.

chevtrev

785 posts

265 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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GreenV8S said:

Ballistic Banana said:

tried to buy one direct from them as they are only about 30mins from me... they told me to deal with Tower View




Tower View hold the rights to the design so you can only buy this via Tower View.


Rights to a roll cage design,what a joke.
I better make sure I put a patent on mine then

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

313 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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chevtrev said:

Rights to a roll cage design,what a joke.


In the sense that they paid for the development work, on the condition that Roll Center would not sell bars built to that design to anyone else. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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GreenV8S said:

Ballistic Banana said:

tried to buy one direct from them as they are only about 30mins from me... they told me to deal with Tower View




Tower View hold the rights to the design so you can only buy this via Tower View.


And they will only supply AND fit.

Wildfire

9,948 posts

281 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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zumbruk said:

FlipFlopGriff said:
Check with your insurance before commiting to a roll bar as we have been told the premium will increase as they think you're going to track it more!!!!!



Mannings; No change.
Sunninghill; Increase in excess.
Elephant £900 increase in premium, on top of a £1000 premium already.

zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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Ballistic Banana said:

zumbruk said:


Ballistic Banana said:
Insurance on mine wasn't affected when adding a roll bar with Mannings Insurance and Classic line before.
Havent got a Harness yet but belive the Willan Caterham one is used by Tower View whos Roll Bar I have.


I have Luke harnesses - the short type designed for Caterhams, with aircraft style buckles. I was recommended to get 4" straps, which I did - they're much more comfortable than narrower straps. I'm very pleased with them.

(BTW, the Tower View bar is actually made by Rollcentre.)


Yeah I knew they made it, tried to buy one direct from them as they are only about 30mins from me... they told me to deal with Tower View

Where'd did you get the luke harness from?


Err, Luke?

www.lukeracing.co.uk/anat.php

I ordered them over the 'phone and they came a couple of days later - they're made to order in the UK. I don't think they have a web shop.

You live near me, don't you? You're welcome to come and have a look at my installation, if you want... Drop me a mail.

tacoma

215 posts

263 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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Hey guys,

roughly or exactly how much for this mod. I have just changed my insurer to Manning, excellent deal! and as i now get free track day cover i was considering the bar and harness. I have to admit that i quite like the thought of the harness due to the lack of airbag and because they just look so damn good. Please forgive me!!

griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Saturday 29th October 2005
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tacoma said:
Hey guys,

roughly or exactly how much for this mod. I have just changed my insurer to Manning, excellent deal! and as i now get free track day cover i was considering the bar and harness. I have to admit that i quite like the thought of the harness due to the lack of airbag and because they just look so damn good. Please forgive me!!


For the Tower View bar supplied and fitted, about £1000. Some cars require additional harness mounts to be welded onto the chassis backbone so the harness eyebolt clears the seat runner. Then you've got the cost of the harnesses on top.

It's worth it though, not just for safety, but also the fact that the harnesses hold you in to the seat so you can feel what the car's doing more.

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

313 months

Saturday 29th October 2005
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griffter said:

the harnesses hold you in to the seat so you can feel what the car's doing more.


Yes, it all gets much easier once your arms only have to steer instead of holding you in the seat too. It's like having power steering, but without the disadvantages.