4.3 or 500 for Sprinting ?
Discussion
Any good advice on which of these two (4.3 or 500) would be the best for Sprinting? I know the 500 is quicker but would you notice much difference on a tight twisty track or hillclimb ?
500 - it's all down to torque!
Whereabouts are you sprinting?
Cheers,
Peter Humphries (and a green V8S)
Coordinator, TVRCC Speed Championship
Who am I to argue with the mighty Green V8S, but comparing my 4.0 and 500, I know which I'd rather push over a twisty road of uncertain nature - and it's not the 500! The more pliable handling and faster Rover box of the 4.0 win it for me.
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>> Edited by simpo one on Tuesday 12th November 20:54
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>> Edited by simpo one on Tuesday 12th November 20:54
simpo one said: Who am I to argue with the mighty Green V8S, but comparing my 4.0 and 500, I know which I'd rather push over a twisty road of uncertain nature - and it's not the 500! The more pliable handling and faster Rover box of the 4.0 win it for me.
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>> Edited by simpo one on Tuesday 12th November 20:54
I suggest you get the steering and suspension settings checked out if your 500 feels much worse than the 4 litre.
Indeed it is strange that some of us feel that a 4.x's handling is better (on bumpy roads) than a 500. This may be caused by the anti-roll bar at the back which is "standard" on most 500's which makes it a bit bumpier. However, having owned a 4.3 and now a 500 I must say there is a big difference in handling, in favour of the 500. Also, the back of my 4.3 stepped out far easier than on my current 500.
I do not have the hours and hours behind the wheels of various aged, engine sized and differing Griffiths that some of you guys have... but ....
The 500 I have sticks to the road like sh1t to a blanket and when I took a friend out who had previously had a '94 500 (now as a Caterham SLR400 )round Anglesey he could not believe how much grip it generated and how hard it could be used. The ability to get the power down and the corner speed it would maintain. Additionally to that how manageable it was when it was being pushed V. hard.
I cannot see any argument for having a less powerful engined, less developed chassissed and less effectively braked car in preference to one which delivers all of the above better....
D'oh !
The 500 I have sticks to the road like sh1t to a blanket and when I took a friend out who had previously had a '94 500 (now as a Caterham SLR400 )round Anglesey he could not believe how much grip it generated and how hard it could be used. The ability to get the power down and the corner speed it would maintain. Additionally to that how manageable it was when it was being pushed V. hard.
I cannot see any argument for having a less powerful engined, less developed chassissed and less effectively braked car in preference to one which delivers all of the above better....
D'oh !
Kevin Day wrote: 'I suggest you get the steering and suspension settings checked out if your 500 feels much worse than the 4 litre.'
Yes, I had poly bushes fitted and the cambers etc were a bit out. Now back within spec. But I didn't say it was worse, simply much firmer. Not so suited to bumpy country lanes, that's all. Not so pliant.
Yes, I had poly bushes fitted and the cambers etc were a bit out. Now back within spec. But I didn't say it was worse, simply much firmer. Not so suited to bumpy country lanes, that's all. Not so pliant.
simpo one said: Kevin Day wrote: 'I suggest you get the steering and suspension settings checked out if your 500 feels much worse than the 4 litre.'
Yes, I had poly bushes fitted and the cambers etc were a bit out. Now back within spec. But I didn't say it was worse, simply much firmer. Not so suited to bumpy country lanes, that's all. Not so pliant.
what firmness of poly bush did you use? .. most of the ones I've seen fitted to TVRs are waaaaaaay softer than the std bush ... worse location. I use poly bushes sometimes but they are almost solid - those are what you need.
Don't know the spec but they are purple and were fitted by Offord. I said that the steering was very heavy and Simon diagnosed the bushes, as the wishbone arms were at the front of the mounting, not central. Who was I to disagree? However, I've subsequently learned that thrust washers might have done the same job for much less cost. Interestingly only the top bushes were done - is this normal?
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