Underfloor Heating
Discussion
The electric cable kind not the water kind (concrete floor already in place).
Anybody got any experience of this?
Ease of installation, running costs, reliability that kind of thing?
Have a 30m2 room with radiators but would like something to warm the tiles and take the chill off when rads are not on.
This company does a system for that size room for abour £550.
www.discountfloorheating.co.uk
Anybody got any experience of this?
Ease of installation, running costs, reliability that kind of thing?
Have a 30m2 room with radiators but would like something to warm the tiles and take the chill off when rads are not on.
This company does a system for that size room for abour £550.
www.discountfloorheating.co.uk
esselte said:Could be, I remember that the shelves and other surfaces used to get covered in a fine dust powder very quickly. This may just have been a characteristic of the house I suppose as it was very old and had just been renovated.
I've got devimat in the bathroom
There wasn't enough room (underfloor) for the plumber version and the devimat is only 3.5 mm
Running costs aren't an issue for me as it's not a huge area (and the bathroom has a heated towel rail plumbed into the central heating) to keep the air warm
There is something very nice about barefoot on a warm marble floor
Instalation is dead easy and the controller learns how long it takes to warm up. Ie you put the time you want the floor to be warm into the timer and over a week or so the timer puts the heat on hoever long before that
There wasn't enough room (underfloor) for the plumber version and the devimat is only 3.5 mm
Running costs aren't an issue for me as it's not a huge area (and the bathroom has a heated towel rail plumbed into the central heating) to keep the air warm
There is something very nice about barefoot on a warm marble floor
Instalation is dead easy and the controller learns how long it takes to warm up. Ie you put the time you want the floor to be warm into the timer and over a week or so the timer puts the heat on hoever long before that
We had electric mat underfloor heating fitted to our kitchen and bathroom when they were extended last year. Its great for taking the chill off the tiles and walking barefoot is very comfortable. Not really suitable as the only method of heating a room though, so we have radiators too. (Although they dont come on very often). You dont need much heat (I think the thermostats are set to about 21 DegC in the floor) and the guy who fitted it told us its not healthy to stand on 'hot floors but to set it so its warm.
Not sure of running costs cos we dont really monitor it. but I know we wouldnt have a tiled floor without it.
The only fitting tips I picked up were to cover the mat with a paint on latex to keep it down cos its very awkward to fit tiles to it otherwise. And to make sure the system is fully functional before tiling!!
Not sure of running costs cos we dont really monitor it. but I know we wouldnt have a tiled floor without it.
The only fitting tips I picked up were to cover the mat with a paint on latex to keep it down cos its very awkward to fit tiles to it otherwise. And to make sure the system is fully functional before tiling!!
I have been looking into this as I will shortly be installing it in my kitchen. "Warmup" is generally regarded as the leading manufacturer. I dont have the link to hand but a quick google should locate them. You can either install the mat type or the wire type. Both have pros and cons - mat is quicker to install, but more expensive and less convenient as you cannot cut the mat to fit around things. Wire type can go wherever you want it to and is cheaper but takes longer to set out. There are special insulated boards to fit under the heating in order to reflect the heat upwards. Quite expensive but more economical in the long run and significantly reduces the time taken to warm the tiles.
baskey said:
I had it in a flat a rented in Manchester. it was rubbish for the amount of money it cost me to run it. it was also really 'weird' being used to 'proper' central heating - as it never seemed to be 'hot' anywhere in the flat - it was kind of the yoghurt of heating systems...
A mate of mine used to rent a house in Manchester that had ceiling heating (I seriously kid you not), it would give you the most bizarre head aches (or maybe that was the joints he was rolling).
i am thinking of doing this too for my conservatory. i already have a radiator but it is quite a large area and the underfloor heating would make the room more usable in the winter.
somebody mentioned the insulated boards, how thick are these? i have doors that open inwards and have a limited amount of space. board then mat then adhesive then tile could add up tp more space than i have. dont really want to put in a recessed area to open the doors, might look a bit strange
somebody mentioned the insulated boards, how thick are these? i have doors that open inwards and have a limited amount of space. board then mat then adhesive then tile could add up tp more space than i have. dont really want to put in a recessed area to open the doors, might look a bit strange
steve 944t said:The devimat is just a series of wires on a mesh you can cut the mesh to move the wire but any area you just roll the mesh out and the wire sits on it, also sticks it to the floor, makes the tile laying easier
- mat is quicker to install, but more expensive and less convenient as you cannot cut the mat to fit around things. Wire type can go wherever you want it to and is cheaper but takes longer to set out.
I've got some piccies somewhere of when I did my bathroom, I'll try and dig them out
Interestingly enough, i've just been talking to a client about heating a 30mt stretch of driveway (acute angle, lots of water run offs in winter), and it would appear that this will happen providing the supply problems can be dealt with.
Generally, underfloor heating is catching on big style and providing it's specced properly and installed properly will do a fine job. But beware, it is easy to try and cut corners and save a few pennies with the end result being poor performance. In for a penny, in for a pound and all that.......
Generally, underfloor heating is catching on big style and providing it's specced properly and installed properly will do a fine job. But beware, it is easy to try and cut corners and save a few pennies with the end result being poor performance. In for a penny, in for a pound and all that.......
I notice a few folks are referring to 'Devimat' which I wouldnt recommend, 'Devicable' is much better. Basically we had a few failures with Devimat and so switched to the continuous Devicable rather than bits of matting linked together. As a conservatory supplier, it's not much fun having to break up the tiling and lift the floor of a customers conservatory to repair the mat system, the continuous cable in theory cant go wrong.
Ive had a Devi underfloor heater installed in the conservatory, its a continuous wire element of about 8mm diameter that snakes across the floor at about 300mm intervals. this was placed on 50mm of insulation and then
75mm of screed on top before tiling. It has enabled us to use the 14ft square conservatory as another room all year round. definatley recommend it based on my experience with it, but at 3200watts it aint cheap to run.
R
75mm of screed on top before tiling. It has enabled us to use the 14ft square conservatory as another room all year round. definatley recommend it based on my experience with it, but at 3200watts it aint cheap to run.
R
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