Remap thoughts.
Discussion
While I would like to regal tales of heroic overtaking manoeuvres. And daring, on the limit battles with other souls. Alas this is not to be.
It was under a leaden sky that I visited the second home of the Cerbera today.
Chesterfield, if you had hadn’t guessed, Joolz‘s gaf in particular.
Today was one of those days when things just were not in sync for me.
Leaving Bedfordshire at eleven hundred hours with a trusty MCN, British rail BLT and coffee at my side, the only thought’s on my mind were ones revolved around getting back out there in the car after Joolz had sprinkled his magic powder over it.
What a day, the train was making good time when your obligatory nutter (no offence to the deranged here) had a blazing row with ticket staff. This chap when asked for his ticket went completely crackers.
Too much for me, head buried in MCN. Anyway upon arrival at the next station, guess what? You got it, the riot squad. I was held up for an hour and subsequently missed the connection from Nottingham.
Not to be perturbed, a taxi, a bus and another taxi later I rolled into Pearson’s industrial estates (joolz’s place.) Maybe the gods were actually smiling after all, as I neared the turn in there he was, Joolz in his distinctive S going the other way.
A flash of the lights later we where on our way back to the shop.
There she was, parked outside the industrial backdrop looking meaner than ever. It’s weird you can forget just what a mind blowing car the Cerb is, sometimes you need to spend a little time apart, remember that first look. Remember when you first saw it and all the reasons you just had to have it.
I felt a warm glow inside, mixed with a sense of pride.
Back to the story. Unfortunaty, with time against us I did not have time for a proper gas. Though as always Joolz was the consummate gentleman.
Right the Car, well as I said it was raining, so could not explore any mashing the gas type exploits.
What I can tell you is the car feel more civilised below around lower RPM.
Let me expand on that, I have only had a short drive. Well one hundred miles or so, but in terrible conditions.
There are times when, I am sure we have all wished for a less snatchcy, spiky delivery around town. You know when it feels as if you are going to cut out if you don’t give it a bit more throttle, becoming a balancing act. Well as Tony Saphrono says (forget about it.) It no longer exists; you can use the clutch with no gas, get moving and take your feet of the pedals, just like a normal car.
Yeah, I hear you. ”but I want it to feel like a race car” no that comes later.
What Joo seems to have done with his mapping is completely smooth the low end of the rev range out. All those stutters and moments of uncertainty are gone, just smooooooth response.
I guess it would be fair to say the car is not as aggressive as before. But as Joo said there is a slight hole in the low end fuelling that will be sorted when the rolling road arrives.
It will still light up the wheels on a small dab of gas. I refer only to pulling away from low speed not the rest of the rev range.
It just feels a little more balanced/ civilised. I know from the graphs the fuelling is down slightly in this area, though that is not necessarily a bad thing.
There are times when, it would seem less is more.
Why do you get a remap? Smoother low speed response at small throttle openings must surely be the most mentioned. Well this is what it does. A remap is like a tailored suit, adjusted specially for you or your car in this case.
That is only one part of it, much like the remap itself which addresses many of the potential running conditions you may encounter during every day driving.
Now onto the motorway and some part and full throttle running. As I mentioned, it was late and wet.
Turning onto the M1 I had to resist slamming the pedal into the carpet. The car was loaded up on the outside wheels so did not want to push my luck.
Upon straightening out onto the slip I eased on a little more gas Now I am not about to tell you guys I was pinned into my seat struggling for breath as sports bikes disappeared in my mirrors. What I can say is. It felt a lot smoother, hey I’m using that word a lot. But that’s it, it is. You can still stab at the pedal for the instant hit, but now you can also have a better build to the power delivery.
It’s hard to explain, It’s not the nuclear reactor build up you can experience with a powerful forced induction motor before it lets rip, not the arched back and subsequent leap you get from a straight six jag. More of a steady, strong building to a screaming crescendo. The longer you stay on the gas the more power builds.
Don’t get me wrong the power is there from the first squeeze of the accelerator. It just gets behind you shoving you up the road as if you are being fired out of a catapult.
Imagine yourself riding a wave of torque, on your Cerb surfboard and you’ll be getting the picture.
It reminds me of the way a big veetwin makes power, positively eating up the revs leaping at the oncoming road. Forcing you to select the next gear before you run out of revs. There as also a definite kick as the engine finds the sweet spot, though as it was wet and other traffic about I resisted full and too aggressive throttle for fear of overwhelming the tyres. It used to light up in third in wet conditions if you were not gentle enough bringing in the power so I guess it is more than capable of doing so now.
Right that’s the acceleration sorted then, got a bit carried away there. Now steady running.
Well what do you know; I guess the best test of this was the forty MPH section of the M1 where the roadworks are (the specs one around Nottingham.)
Now I always find it hard keeping a steady forty on the motorway. Even more so when under the scrutiny of SPECS. You know, shall I keep it in third? Fourth? The car just does not like running at such low speeds.
Well it does now, fourth gear forty MPH no stuttering, easy to hold constant speed without having to constantly adjust the throttle, So much better behaved no bogging down even at such low speed.
Amazing I never thought a remap would make driving in camera, sorry scamera covered motorways easier.
I filled the tank as I got onto the M1, reset the trip meter thinking I would refill at the other end to see if fuel economy had improved. I did not manage to refill as the whether was so bad, also I got off a junction earlier as the traffic was so bad. Will fill up next run and work out the consumption.
I have not mentioned the de-cat pipes; well first impressions are that they are not nearly as offensive as I had imagined. Yes they do sound a bit louder but not ear splittingly so. Also no drone on the motorway.
The sound is harsher, raspier, and more metallic but not too much.
As I passed under motorway bridges the sound was fired back at me, it was reminiscent of a straight through race car tearing past at full chat. Hmmmmm.
I can’t really tell you much about the handling tweaks, not that it’s confidential or anything. The truth is I did not get a chance. Sure it feels planted and arrow straight, so this is a test I will report back as soon as I get a chance to get out.
Though after Cream, driving on the road is somewhat tame.
I also had the braided brake lines fitted, though once again I have little to report as the drive home was not a suitable environment for brake testing.
So once again thanks Joo, you did it again.
Realistically priced, honest, professional, and as always a better car at the end of the process.
I will let you all know how it feels in the dry as soon a s a chance arises, See you all at the Ace.
Nick.
It was under a leaden sky that I visited the second home of the Cerbera today.
Chesterfield, if you had hadn’t guessed, Joolz‘s gaf in particular.
Today was one of those days when things just were not in sync for me.
Leaving Bedfordshire at eleven hundred hours with a trusty MCN, British rail BLT and coffee at my side, the only thought’s on my mind were ones revolved around getting back out there in the car after Joolz had sprinkled his magic powder over it.
What a day, the train was making good time when your obligatory nutter (no offence to the deranged here) had a blazing row with ticket staff. This chap when asked for his ticket went completely crackers.
Too much for me, head buried in MCN. Anyway upon arrival at the next station, guess what? You got it, the riot squad. I was held up for an hour and subsequently missed the connection from Nottingham.
Not to be perturbed, a taxi, a bus and another taxi later I rolled into Pearson’s industrial estates (joolz’s place.) Maybe the gods were actually smiling after all, as I neared the turn in there he was, Joolz in his distinctive S going the other way.
A flash of the lights later we where on our way back to the shop.
There she was, parked outside the industrial backdrop looking meaner than ever. It’s weird you can forget just what a mind blowing car the Cerb is, sometimes you need to spend a little time apart, remember that first look. Remember when you first saw it and all the reasons you just had to have it.
I felt a warm glow inside, mixed with a sense of pride.
Back to the story. Unfortunaty, with time against us I did not have time for a proper gas. Though as always Joolz was the consummate gentleman.
Right the Car, well as I said it was raining, so could not explore any mashing the gas type exploits.
What I can tell you is the car feel more civilised below around lower RPM.
Let me expand on that, I have only had a short drive. Well one hundred miles or so, but in terrible conditions.
There are times when, I am sure we have all wished for a less snatchcy, spiky delivery around town. You know when it feels as if you are going to cut out if you don’t give it a bit more throttle, becoming a balancing act. Well as Tony Saphrono says (forget about it.) It no longer exists; you can use the clutch with no gas, get moving and take your feet of the pedals, just like a normal car.
Yeah, I hear you. ”but I want it to feel like a race car” no that comes later.
What Joo seems to have done with his mapping is completely smooth the low end of the rev range out. All those stutters and moments of uncertainty are gone, just smooooooth response.
I guess it would be fair to say the car is not as aggressive as before. But as Joo said there is a slight hole in the low end fuelling that will be sorted when the rolling road arrives.
It will still light up the wheels on a small dab of gas. I refer only to pulling away from low speed not the rest of the rev range.
It just feels a little more balanced/ civilised. I know from the graphs the fuelling is down slightly in this area, though that is not necessarily a bad thing.
There are times when, it would seem less is more.
Why do you get a remap? Smoother low speed response at small throttle openings must surely be the most mentioned. Well this is what it does. A remap is like a tailored suit, adjusted specially for you or your car in this case.
That is only one part of it, much like the remap itself which addresses many of the potential running conditions you may encounter during every day driving.
Now onto the motorway and some part and full throttle running. As I mentioned, it was late and wet.
Turning onto the M1 I had to resist slamming the pedal into the carpet. The car was loaded up on the outside wheels so did not want to push my luck.
Upon straightening out onto the slip I eased on a little more gas Now I am not about to tell you guys I was pinned into my seat struggling for breath as sports bikes disappeared in my mirrors. What I can say is. It felt a lot smoother, hey I’m using that word a lot. But that’s it, it is. You can still stab at the pedal for the instant hit, but now you can also have a better build to the power delivery.
It’s hard to explain, It’s not the nuclear reactor build up you can experience with a powerful forced induction motor before it lets rip, not the arched back and subsequent leap you get from a straight six jag. More of a steady, strong building to a screaming crescendo. The longer you stay on the gas the more power builds.
Don’t get me wrong the power is there from the first squeeze of the accelerator. It just gets behind you shoving you up the road as if you are being fired out of a catapult.
Imagine yourself riding a wave of torque, on your Cerb surfboard and you’ll be getting the picture.
It reminds me of the way a big veetwin makes power, positively eating up the revs leaping at the oncoming road. Forcing you to select the next gear before you run out of revs. There as also a definite kick as the engine finds the sweet spot, though as it was wet and other traffic about I resisted full and too aggressive throttle for fear of overwhelming the tyres. It used to light up in third in wet conditions if you were not gentle enough bringing in the power so I guess it is more than capable of doing so now.
Right that’s the acceleration sorted then, got a bit carried away there. Now steady running.
Well what do you know; I guess the best test of this was the forty MPH section of the M1 where the roadworks are (the specs one around Nottingham.)
Now I always find it hard keeping a steady forty on the motorway. Even more so when under the scrutiny of SPECS. You know, shall I keep it in third? Fourth? The car just does not like running at such low speeds.
Well it does now, fourth gear forty MPH no stuttering, easy to hold constant speed without having to constantly adjust the throttle, So much better behaved no bogging down even at such low speed.
Amazing I never thought a remap would make driving in camera, sorry scamera covered motorways easier.
I filled the tank as I got onto the M1, reset the trip meter thinking I would refill at the other end to see if fuel economy had improved. I did not manage to refill as the whether was so bad, also I got off a junction earlier as the traffic was so bad. Will fill up next run and work out the consumption.
I have not mentioned the de-cat pipes; well first impressions are that they are not nearly as offensive as I had imagined. Yes they do sound a bit louder but not ear splittingly so. Also no drone on the motorway.
The sound is harsher, raspier, and more metallic but not too much.
As I passed under motorway bridges the sound was fired back at me, it was reminiscent of a straight through race car tearing past at full chat. Hmmmmm.
I can’t really tell you much about the handling tweaks, not that it’s confidential or anything. The truth is I did not get a chance. Sure it feels planted and arrow straight, so this is a test I will report back as soon as I get a chance to get out.
Though after Cream, driving on the road is somewhat tame.
I also had the braided brake lines fitted, though once again I have little to report as the drive home was not a suitable environment for brake testing.
So once again thanks Joo, you did it again.
Realistically priced, honest, professional, and as always a better car at the end of the process.
I will let you all know how it feels in the dry as soon a s a chance arises, See you all at the Ace.
Nick.
Completely agree with you there Nick - a well mapped 4.5 is an absolute pleasure to drive. The smooth delivery you get from the mapping is really deceptive, the car being quicker than it sometimes feels. Ours should be back on the road soon too, will take a little while to recalibrate myself to the car's performance and I'm really looking forward to it.
Steve.
Steve.
Thanks lads,
BCA yes I saw your car; I was looking into your throttle butterflies the other day.
Pete, you are right about the Ultima, I do want one, but not prepared to let the Cerb go as I haven’t finished tweaking it yet. I will be getting one at some point as they are one of the cars I must own. I would have liked to get the one floating about on here the other week. That was a really well built one.
I would go to the factory for a test drive, if I didn’t already know what would happen.
Steve right again much better, Steve are you going to the ACE? If so I am going to take you for a spin as you must be suffering withdrawal symptomsby now.
Ceejay, Yeah Joo is doing the mapping now, you knew that no?
I guess it’ll get even better when the rollers arrive.
Nick...
BCA yes I saw your car; I was looking into your throttle butterflies the other day.
Pete, you are right about the Ultima, I do want one, but not prepared to let the Cerb go as I haven’t finished tweaking it yet. I will be getting one at some point as they are one of the cars I must own. I would have liked to get the one floating about on here the other week. That was a really well built one.
I would go to the factory for a test drive, if I didn’t already know what would happen.
Steve right again much better, Steve are you going to the ACE? If so I am going to take you for a spin as you must be suffering withdrawal symptomsby now.
Ceejay, Yeah Joo is doing the mapping now, you knew that no?
I guess it’ll get even better when the rollers arrive.
Nick...
Joolz has had my car for 3 weeks now. So.....
Nick, I saw your car in the flesh last week when I dropped in on Joolz and what a brilliant colour it is.
Saw yours also BCA - mines blue too - and I'm West Midlands (too).
If you saw mine yesterday (Viper Blue) it probably didn't have any wheels on! Joolz is doing a great job as usual completely sorting mine including a re-map. Will post when I have a similar experience driving home in the near future.
Nick, I saw your car in the flesh last week when I dropped in on Joolz and what a brilliant colour it is.
Saw yours also BCA - mines blue too - and I'm West Midlands (too).
If you saw mine yesterday (Viper Blue) it probably didn't have any wheels on! Joolz is doing a great job as usual completely sorting mine including a re-map. Will post when I have a similar experience driving home in the near future.
Well written tale, enjoyed it
. Have to say not driven a mapped cerb but have heard them on the rollers as the mapping progresses and yes they do seem to get more civilised as its improved, thats not to say they are tamed though
.
Glad to see Joolz has cracked the MBE encoding too
.
Harry
. Have to say not driven a mapped cerb but have heard them on the rollers as the mapping progresses and yes they do seem to get more civilised as its improved, thats not to say they are tamed though
. Glad to see Joolz has cracked the MBE encoding too
. Harry
Too tall Paul, sorry for not introducing myself properly, I thought I would let you chaps get off, as I had already caused you to turn around and come back to the locked up shop.
Marcus, the remap costs were £400.00 I also had a few other bits done. Moving the shift light to correspond with the new position for peak power. I had the fan cycling changed, so as to lower the overall engine temperature.
There was something else, can’t remember exactly what though.
The small changes from Joo’s list of “extras” are £25.00 each.
All prices subject to the dreaded VAT.
Nick.
Marcus, the remap costs were £400.00 I also had a few other bits done. Moving the shift light to correspond with the new position for peak power. I had the fan cycling changed, so as to lower the overall engine temperature.
There was something else, can’t remember exactly what though.
The small changes from Joo’s list of “extras” are £25.00 each.
All prices subject to the dreaded VAT.
Nick.
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