If they ever needed a reason to riot
If they ever needed a reason to riot
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Donut

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4,521 posts

281 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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scorp

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259 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Donut

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4,521 posts

281 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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silversun

4,373 posts

256 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Oh FFS, not another one!

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Interesting. In as mush as it's a rather good example of the racism that exists BETWEEN the different Ethnic minorities. Which often seems to be far worse than the supposedly widespread racism of whites against ethnic minotiries.

Donut

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281 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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timmy30 said:
Interesting. In as mush as it's a rather good example of the racism that exists BETWEEN the different Ethnic minorities. Which often seems to be far worse than the supposedly widespread racism of whites against ethnic minotiries.


I have heard the main trouble is a turf war between asian and black drug gangs!

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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gravestones get5 pushed over all the time, in alsorts of graveyards... why the cafuffle now?? More media hype if you ask me.

cotty

42,248 posts

314 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Is there really a "Muslim part of the cemetery"

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Donut said:
timmy30 said:
Interesting. In as mush as it's a rather good example of the racism that exists BETWEEN the different Ethnic minorities. Which often seems to be far worse than the supposedly widespread racism of whites against ethnic minotiries.


I have heard the main trouble is a turf war between asian and black drug gangs!

Yup... thats true. The whole 'girl got gangraped thing' had no foundation whatsoever.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

268 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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cotty said:
Is there really a "Muslim part of the cemetery"


My thoughts exactly as soon as I read this.

Why the hell do people think racism exists in this country?

Donut

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4,521 posts

281 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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andy mac said:
gravestones get5 pushed over all the time, in alsorts of graveyards... why the cafuffle now?? More media hype if you ask me.


I wish you where right, but sadly not.

My step-dad has been working on the riot story since it happened and has good sources in Handsworth and lozels, it will kick off.

I do hope I'm wrong though as he will be tonight with only a camaraman for protection!!

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm saying its media hype, about the gravestones. They get pushed over all over the place by disgruntled kids. However they centre on this, and its likely to spark off, thanks to media hype.

W333

417 posts

253 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Disgusting... theres one thing messing with the living - but its totally another thing messing with the dead

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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W333 said:
Disgusting... theres one thing messing with the living - but its totally another thing messing with the dead

They're dead...they won't notice. i'm sure the 2 chaps killed t'other night was more disgusting.

Donut

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4,521 posts

281 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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andy mac said:
I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm saying its media hype, about the gravestones. They get pushed over all over the place by disgruntled kids. However they centre on this, and its likely to spark off, thanks to media hype.


You can't blame the media for this one!

People have a right to know what goes on in there city and the REAL reasons haven't been reported as not to give this mindless wart on the arse of society the sense of glory!

You are right about media hype in most issues though

p.s I don't think its the pushing over of gravestones that is the clincher but the leaflet drop that they chose to do at the same time!!

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Do you think it is wise of the media to start shouting "Muslin gravestones desecrated, etc" at a time like this? When was the last time "christian gravestones knocked over" gopt such attention? Its not a big story, except for the fact that recent occurances make it so.

cotty

42,248 posts

314 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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anniesdad said:
cotty said:
Is there really a "Muslim part of the cemetery"


My thoughts exactly as soon as I read this.

Why the hell do people think racism exists in this country?


I wonder if there is a gay section, an alcoholics section or perhaps an athiest section

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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W333 said:
Disgusting... theres one thing messing with the living - but its totally another thing messing with the dead


I pulled up to the rank last night and watched as commuters warily stood to one side as some youths were kicking off,you could see concern on their faces,they didnt need that they had just done stupid hours,got stuck on a delayed train then faced that sort of malarky at eleven o clock at night,Dead or alive its getting ridiculous

Its a total lack of respect,Ray Malham had the right idea,he didnt worry about poxy speeding and road cams he was into zero tolerance and got Middlesboro's crime down.
Till the media had to try and dig something up and get him needlessly suspended,Zero tolerance is what is needed and start at the top...anyone caught with a gun ,10 years NO remission,caught with one on a job 20 years NO remission.....anyone caught with a knife 5 years....on a job 10 years...again NO remission.

All prisons to be moved close to the coastline in desolate areas where prisoners will be given 12 hour days of breaking rocks to build the coast line, @ 6 days a week like hard labour....
Empty the prisons first with an amnesty on non violent criminals but let them break rocks for a month beforehand to show them what they will get if the re-offend.

National service for all 16 year old boys for a year to 18 months with a choice of a trade whilst in the camp.

All girls to attend Family units one day a week in their towns to learn family values.

From 14 to 18 years of age anyone caught commiting an offence to be sent to detention centres for hard labour for 3 months,re-offend and it goes up to 6 months and is doubled each time they offend.

No one person should affect any group meet be it social,religous,sporting,working,dead or any other as people should be able to act freely in life without other peoples disruption,offenders to be severly punished with custodial sentances.

It needs a hard line to get the respect back before we lose it completely.

Her Cliff Climbs down of soapbox

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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andy mac said:
When was the last time "christian gravestones knocked over" gopt such attention?

When the animal rights ers dug up that lady's grave to intimidate local farmers.
andy mac said:

Its not a big story, except for the fact that recent occurances make it so.

Its about the same as when the animal rights ers dug up that lady's grave.

Its a big enough story and it should be told. People capable of desecrating graves (for any reason) are ers and deserve our condemnation.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Friday 4th November 2005
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Jewish graves get desocrated all the time.