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kenprotheroe

Original Poster:

112 posts

257 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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Re. the posting by micknall dtd. Friday 4th Nov., &
the said reluctance for Noble owners to discuss
problems on the Forum.
The following query is very evident from the volume
of forum inclusions regarding replacement wheel costs :
South African manufacturing costs are miniscule
compared with those of the UK. That being so,
enlightenment is requested as to why replacement
Noble wheel costs are extortionately high in the UK ?
Which is evident in comparison with UK costs of other
similar specified wheels and those obtainable from
the USofA, that comparing specs., are around a quarter of the UK asking for factory-Noble replacements.
The comments of the factory on this issue are hereby requested.

>> Edited by kenprotheroe on Monday 7th November 14:01

>> Edited by kenprotheroe on Monday 7th November 14:06

amg merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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Fair point and be aware (it appears) that the factory has an exclusive OEM deal with the SA wheel manufacturer whcih means they are unable to sell a Noble wheel to an individual!

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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Going back a few years, there was a big fuss about this and the factory considerably dropped the prices on the 3R wheels. I don't think the original m12 wheels benefitted though.

I'm sure Simon will chime in.

washy

950 posts

305 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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I think the TVR 'spider' wheel is less than £200 all in so I'd agree £1,000, or whatever has been mentioned in the past, seems a little OTT!!

V6GTO

11,579 posts

271 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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I was given SA as the reason for the wheels being so expensive, that Noble (UK) had no say in what they paid for them. I said it at the time and I'll say it again, I think this is bull5h1t. Even after bitching and whining I still had to pay a ridiculously overinflated price for what is, lets face it, nothing extraordinary in wheel manufacture terms. I too would like an explaination as to why I had to pay 3-400% of what I would have said was reasonable.

Martin.

paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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Dear All,
I must say I was suprised to be able to buy a set of full magnesium racing wheels made especialy for the car for half the cost of a set of standard road wheels.
I'm not in the market for road wheels but if I were I'd also be very interested in the quotes coming out of the states where it appears you can buy M400 wheels for approx $450 each. Given the exchange rate that is roughly one quarter of the price bandied around for the OEM wheels - but presumbaly these USA wheels are the same?
Spare parts are allways more costly than the part "bought" with the car but the apparent disparity in the cost of the wheels with others I've bought ( a set of alloy 20" rims for an XKR - £2,000) does seem to stick out a bit.
It is also very obviously a recurring theme - there are numerous dead threads on this and the other forums.
Answers needed!
Regards
Paul C



amg merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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Off thread but same subject - please be aware that if you send your wheels away for a full strip and recoat and they bake them the (faux eg: plastic) bolts arounf the rim will melt and are then buggers to extract - so, have the wheelie man remove them first (but then of course, they won't fit back in the hole flush due to their being paint in the hole!).

golf nut

6 posts

250 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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I remember seeing technical data on the Noble rims but cannot find it again, anyone have them in an iges format, even a dxf or dwg will help.

Paul

SPR117T

171 posts

258 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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This is the link to wheel spec, etc
www.gto3.com/components/wheels.htm
I am desperate for a set of wheels, managed to get a set of very new slicks, would love to see how they go on a hot summers track day. Have got the nitrons so hopefully not too many bump stop issues. If anybody else is interested I can get another part warn set (Porsche cup michelin) Aprox cost £ 100 + carrage for a full set with plenty of meat.

paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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SPR117T said:
This is the link to wheel spec, etc
www.gto3.com/components/wheels.htm
I am desperate for a set of wheels, managed to get a set of very new slicks, would love to see how they go on a hot summers track day. Have got the nitrons so hopefully not too many bump stop issues. If anybody else is interested I can get another part warn set (Porsche cup michelin) Aprox cost £ 100 + carrage for a full set with plenty of meat.


Paul YHM and hopfully I have a set of part worn slicks.
Regards
Paul C

washy

950 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Out of interest... is the car able to handle running slicks? Do the hubs, bearings, track control bits and pieces and so on cope OK? Can the track day sump control oil surge? I too can source used slikcs at £100 a set and had considered this as cheaper than running the Corsa's but worry that I'll knacker everything out with the extra load.

paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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washy said:
Out of interest... is the car able to handle running slicks? Do the hubs, bearings, track control bits and pieces and so on cope OK? Can the track day sump control oil surge? I too can source used slikcs at £100 a set and had considered this as cheaper than running the Corsa's but worry that I'll knacker everything out with the extra load.


Of course you are right, everything will be subjected to greater loadings and strain and will wear out much faster. Oil surge I'm not sure. However it's something you've just got to do. It will be fascinating to see how much difference proper slicks make on the same car.
Regards
Paul C

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Are they legal on the roads? I am sure not, but how would you drive to a TD on them?

GN

SPR117T

171 posts

258 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Of course they are not legal. And I am sure they will put more strain on the car, but we are talking track day, not racing. It is an experiment I am willing to undertake. The car has been ran on SO-3's and corsa's now its time to see & experience the difference at a fraction of the cost. I would have another car travel to the trackday with them in the back. Therefore I need a set of spare wheels. You can't tell me your not curious

Paul YHM and hopfully I have a set of part worn slicks. Paul what does YHM mean?


>> Edited by SPR117T on Tuesday 8th November 09:46

lucozade

2,574 posts

308 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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I guess the factory is in business to make money - first and foremost.

However, I don't like the idea of being screwed over for the price of a set of wheels. Mines certainly need a refurb (looks like I can't get this done) after Rockingham Owners day trip onto the beach.

I suspect the markup of any of our cars minus the one year warranty is tight so Noble have to make their money elsewhere. Taking the pi55 on pricing parts is not ideal though.

I still haven't decided what to do about my manifolds yet as I feel I'm going to be screwed over whichever route i take.

All in all its leaving me with a bad feeling so much so that I've started looking at alternatives.

>> Edited by lucozade on Tuesday 8th November 09:58

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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YHM means you have mail.

lucozade

2,574 posts

308 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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amg merc said:
Off thread but same subject - please be aware that if you send your wheels away for a full strip and recoat and they bake them the (faux eg: plastic) bolts arounf the rim will melt and are then buggers to extract - so, have the wheelie man remove them first (but then of course, they won't fit back in the hole flush due to their being paint in the hole!).


So is it still ok to get them refurbed ?

washy

950 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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lucozade - what alternatives are you looking at?

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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washy said:
lucozade - what alternatives are you looking at?


I presume he means a different car.

washy

950 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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So do I!! Just wondering what!