993 turbo 4 - downhill ever since?
993 turbo 4 - downhill ever since?
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softinthehead

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1,550 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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just perusing page 1 of todays Pistonheads 911 classifieds where there are two 993 turbo 4s, one arena red and the other midnight blue. without either wishing to provoke a scrap/slanging match or to offend my 911 water-cooled brethren , am I alone in thinking that the 993 turbo 4 has to be the most fundamentally beautiful 911 ever?

craigturbo2

450 posts

259 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Sorry Turbo2 does it for me,we cant all like the same

Craig

porsche4life

1,164 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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I used to think so, until i bought a 996 GT2, now every other car on the road is inferior and ugly...

Beauty is in the eye...........

Friggin nightmare in this wet slippy weather though...

nel

4,830 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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For what it's worth coming from a 993tt owner, I agree with you. While I respect the reported superiority of the 996tt in terms of power and control, and like it's keinenonsensewagen looks, it is not as aesthetically superlative to look at as the older model.



It's the whole package - the cute little spoiler, the raked headlights, the sexy fat ass. Alright, compromised by age it may be far from ergonomic bliss inside and it doesn't have all the toys, but I really don't need all that stuff. Ultimately it's a hard car to replace which is why I intend to keep mine....

gunner

758 posts

257 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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magnificent car.500 miles on every type of road in mine over the weekend and I like it more than ever.perfect.

iguana

7,326 posts

287 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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They are utterly terrific cars, but from a purely aesthetic view not IMHO the best looking 911, ahead of it in my list are-

R
ST
2.2/2.4S
'73RS
3.0RS
964RS
993RS
993GT2
GT3 (Mk1)

verysideways

10,268 posts

299 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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[bias]



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pesty

42,655 posts

283 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Love em especialy with the s vent but prefering the 993 RSR look.

965's do it for me as do 964 obviously
996GT3's mkII and RS's

but you know what, people will think this is really odd. Where I work there are loads of 997's floating around and I really, really like them. black ,silver, red they just look so nice retro but sleek and modern at teh same time

I realise I'm in a minority of me on that last one

>> Edited by pesty on Wednesday 9th November 21:48

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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The thing with the 993TT is that it looks great from every angle, not just a few nice looking bits and bobs. Oh, and it's still nippy even by todays standards too.


Note the stockpile of Mobil 1 on the left - sorry about the rising oil prices guys!

Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Well I agree that the 993 is the most beautiful, but I don't like the "melted cheese" of the Turbo ( I'm a turbo owner myself). However the GT2-esque kit of the big spoiler pack makes it OK
Again, I know the 996 tt is a much superior car, but I'll often find 996/997 owners citing functional benefits of how much better the wasserpumpers are and/or how dated the 993 is. "dated" is to do with fashion, and fashion doesn't interest me. Well if you can't appreciate the SUBTLE virtues of the 993 over the 996s now, you probably never will...

cuneus

5,963 posts

269 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Please stop posting porn (oh go on then)

On my way home in Ipswich last week I saw a 993 S and a 996 S on the same journey, I know which set my heart beating faster

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Before I bought my car I spent hours just staring at the pictures in various Porsche books (all featuring arena red tt's). After I'd paid a deposit things got really bad.

993_C2S

216 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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993 TT are stunning, but I personally prefer the 993 without the large fixed spoiler, which is why I went for a S model . The pure 911 shape free from spoliers is automotive porn

lanesra10

313 posts

258 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Does it for me to
Liked the ass on the Arena Red one, its the 993's best angle

softinthehead

Original Poster:

1,550 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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see where youre comin from, LA, personally I'm not a fan of whale tails. to me it looked clumpy on the really early 911s (though I liked the old ducktail), the 964 turbo was much better integrated aesthetically, buti think the 9943 turbo is the only one where the integration works really well, giving it a purposeful rather than ott look. horses for courses.

roygarth

2,674 posts

275 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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993TT gets my vote. Perhaps it's partly to do with living in central London and seeing so many silver 996TT...awfully common don't you know!

Marki

15,763 posts

297 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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los angeles said:

but I find it difficult to shake off the aesthetic rule anything with an add-on spoiler, fin, or whaletail loses purity of line.


But LA dont you think on the 993 TT the rear spoiler is blended in so well it does not look like an add-on

mtbr

328 posts

249 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Until I went to the Porsche Club Festival at Brands Hatch this year, I didn't know whether to buy a new 997 or one of the last 993s.

From the moment I saw the rows of 911s in silver and red, I had no doubt my next car was going to be a 993.

However much I rationalize my decision with factors like interior equipment, handling or residuals the decision was purely aesthetic.

Of all the 993s I like the RS with the small spoiler best, strangely enough thats what I bought!

BUT.... Of all the Porsches ever built I like the looks of the short tailed 917 race cars best of all.

clubsport

7,408 posts

285 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Hi Mark, have to agree with you, in terms of form and function I much prefer the narrow bodied cars. In much the same way that I am not over keen on fat birds

I hope the RS is going well, I really am missing it....still haven't found a replacement as yet.

nel

4,830 posts

268 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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clubsport said:
In much the same way that I am not over keen on fat birds


But they work so much harder because they're grateful!


I know it's an old photo known to you all, but I still like it as a comparative study in turbo arses...