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'Life-saving' officer disciplined
A police officer has been disciplined for using excessive force when he grabbed a man who was threatening to jump from a second floor window.
The Cambs Police officer, a probationer in his 20s, was given an official "telling off" by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).
It ruled he failed to use a Home Office-approved hold as he tried to help the suicidal man.
Fellow officers have reacted with disbelief at the news.
Cambridgeshire Police initially rejected the complaint lodged by the man's father, but he appealed, forcing them to refer it to the IPCC.
The IPCC then upheld the father's complaint.
As a result the officer, who is not being identified, was given "words of advice" - the lowest form of disciplinary action.
Cambridgeshire Police Federation secretary Tony Laud said: "It is unbelievable.
"This was a young officer doing what he believed was the best thing and rather than receiving a pat on the back, as he expected, he effectively found himself being told off."
The incident happened on 30 September last year when three officers were called to a disturbance at a house in Peterborough.
They found a man, high on drink and drugs, who was acting aggressively and threatening to jump from the window.
'Potentially dangerous'
The officer, then a year into his service, managed to grab him despite being kicked between the legs and assaulted.
During the melee the man's father arrived at the scene and entered the room as the officer was holding down his son.
A spokeswoman from the IPCC said: "With regard to this particular case, the Independent Police Complaints Commission was fully understanding of the circumstances this officer found himself in.
"It is, however, clear that an inappropriate and potentially dangerous hold was used and advice was therefore given to the officer in this regard."
BBC News site
A police officer has been disciplined for using excessive force when he grabbed a man who was threatening to jump from a second floor window.
The Cambs Police officer, a probationer in his 20s, was given an official "telling off" by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).
It ruled he failed to use a Home Office-approved hold as he tried to help the suicidal man.
Fellow officers have reacted with disbelief at the news.
Cambridgeshire Police initially rejected the complaint lodged by the man's father, but he appealed, forcing them to refer it to the IPCC.
The IPCC then upheld the father's complaint.
As a result the officer, who is not being identified, was given "words of advice" - the lowest form of disciplinary action.
Cambridgeshire Police Federation secretary Tony Laud said: "It is unbelievable.
"This was a young officer doing what he believed was the best thing and rather than receiving a pat on the back, as he expected, he effectively found himself being told off."
The incident happened on 30 September last year when three officers were called to a disturbance at a house in Peterborough.
They found a man, high on drink and drugs, who was acting aggressively and threatening to jump from the window.
'Potentially dangerous'
The officer, then a year into his service, managed to grab him despite being kicked between the legs and assaulted.
During the melee the man's father arrived at the scene and entered the room as the officer was holding down his son.
A spokeswoman from the IPCC said: "With regard to this particular case, the Independent Police Complaints Commission was fully understanding of the circumstances this officer found himself in.
"It is, however, clear that an inappropriate and potentially dangerous hold was used and advice was therefore given to the officer in this regard."
BBC News site
r jump [/derekandclivemode] 
towman said:
Next time, push the tw@t. Save the PC a bollocking and the state a few bob.
And yes, I am serious.
Indeed .. why should we be trying to save a man " high on drink and drugs, who was acting aggressively and threatening to jump from the window." and who'd assaulted a police officer/probationer who was trying to help him anyway?
let him jump to his death I say, not exactly a valuable asset to society judging from this description ..
Mountain and molehill spring to mind.
The IPCC have apparently ticked the officer off to keep the peace with the lunatic father (like father like son).
Looks like journalistic sensationalism to me. If they had let him jump there would've been even more PC crap tho! Investigation into why dead mans arm was bruised by officer etc lol.
The IPCC have apparently ticked the officer off to keep the peace with the lunatic father (like father like son).
Looks like journalistic sensationalism to me. If they had let him jump there would've been even more PC crap tho! Investigation into why dead mans arm was bruised by officer etc lol.
knocking the jumper cold. The PC brigade would have a field day with that one.Gutter press sensationalism and PC bullshit rolled into one.... Let me say well done young man even if your Bullshit PC bosses say it wasn't correct!!! FFS!!! BiB was attempting to save life even if the scrote obviously wasn't worth it!!!!
If the BiB in person stands back in future and lets the worthless shit jump, then well done, less costs for NHS and social services methinks!!!
If the BiB in person stands back in future and lets the worthless shit jump, then well done, less costs for NHS and social services methinks!!!
Sadly this sort of thing is nothing new. A colleague of mine tried to retreive a large packet of drugs a detainee was in the process of swallowing, failed, the man died and my mate was hauled over the coals for performing an illegal search of the idiots mouth. He was actually trying to save his life....
trackcar said:
Next time, push the tw@t. Save the PC a bollocking and the state a few bob.
And yes, I am serious.
Indeed .. why should we be trying to save a man " high on drink and drugs, who was acting aggressively and threatening to jump from the window." and who'd assaulted a police officer/probationer who was trying to help him anyway?
let him jump to his death I say, not exactly a valuable asset to society judging from this description ..
Same sentiment here, let the tw4t jump. His dad is clearly a tosser too. The police officer probably saved his sons life, but no, the father complains because the hold looked like it hurt!
Oh boo hoo, what a wimp, I thought druggies/hoodies were well ard!
No wonder this country is such a shit pile. OK, we need the IPCC, but upholding this is just a bit OTT by about a mile!
Poor copper. Whats his incentive to serve the public now?
Dave
As a very young apprentice in a well-known vacuum cleaner manufacturer in Perivale I supplemented my meagre income by being an auxilliary fireman. One of the common sense tenets of the training was that it didn't really matter what injuries you visited on a victim in the process of getting him/her out of a fire, as long as you got them out! If chucking them out of a first floor window was the only option, DO IT! They're going to die if you don't.
Thhy should explain to the guys father that next time they're called out and he's threatening to jump out of a window that they'll stand well back and applaude when he finally removes himself from the gene pool.
The complaints and 'sue for anything' culture really is starting to get out of hand.
The complaints and 'sue for anything' culture really is starting to get out of hand.
Whilst I agree it is completely ridiculous, this is normal practice for the Police in my line of work.
A colleague of mine has been criticised for stopping someone jumping from a window. Because he hadn't actually jumped, therefore it might not be necessary.
This kind of wise-after-the-event logic is the norm. It's why no-one does anything. It's safer.
A colleague of mine has been criticised for stopping someone jumping from a window. Because he hadn't actually jumped, therefore it might not be necessary.
This kind of wise-after-the-event logic is the norm. It's why no-one does anything. It's safer.
autismuk said:
Whilst I agree it is completely ridiculous, this is normal practice for the Police in my line of work.
A colleague of mine has been criticised for stopping someone jumping from a window. Because he hadn't actually jumped, therefore it might not be necessary.
This kind of wise-after-the-event logic is the norm. It's why no-one does anything. It's safer.
But what happens when a potential jumper goes through with it and it transpires that an officer was to hand?
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