Water temperatures....advice please??
Water temperatures....advice please??
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Fizzer

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74 posts

251 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Hi All,
Took my newly acquired 4.0l to Racing Green yesterday....a round trip of about 280 miles....and she ran beautifully, however I noticed that the water temp rarely got above 70 degrees. On the return journey - when it was getting pretty nippy outside, the temperature dropped to just over 60 degrees, as my speeds increased.
I'm completely non-technical....but these temperatures seemed a bit low to me, and I'm wondering if this is a problem - or what the consequences could be?
Thanks in advance.

LAFR

202 posts

276 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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The temp sounds a little low to me, check the bible (Steve Heath) as it states the normal operating temps.

LAFR

andy-w

1,987 posts

255 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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My '94 4ltr will only go above 70 if i get stuck in traffic. If i am moving constanty it hardly ever goes beyond 70...but hey who cares...after the amount of grief i have had recently a little bit of cool running is not the end of the world for me!!!

stepej

445 posts

269 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Mine ('99 4.5) used to run at just below 80 - before I had the rad recored earlier this year. Now it rarely gets above 70, unless in traffic... and on colder days it runs a bit colder

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

313 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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You can't necessarily take the temp gauge reading at face value, so check the actual temp by some other means if possible. For example you can check what temperature the gauge shows when the fans go on and off.

If that temperature reading is accurate, your engine is running too cold. The most likely cause is a faulty thermostat.

mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Its more than normal to see 60-70oC on the run at this time of year.David Beer(Modwise) discovered that where the temp sensor is situated it suffers from wind chill,hence when you slow down/stop,then the gauge reads more accurately-David sells a mod to cure this.I'v had 3 v8's now and all have been the same.Been down the route of changing the stat in the early days,and it made no difference,though its never a bad thing to check the stat as a stuck open one could give similar symptoms.
Unfortunately,comparing at what temp the fans cut in can only confuse further imho,as the thermoswitch(otter) for the fans is in a different place(either swirl pot or rad)to the gauge sensor.If your otter is in the swirl pot then it can be affected by the massive heat rising from the manifold.My gauge often reads 80 when the fans cut in(otter switch works at 92),particularly if i've recently come to a halt as opposed to having been stood for a while.

Hughesie2

12,790 posts

311 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Has your number plate been dropped, mine resides on the bottom lip of the fibreglass mouth, not in the middle of the mesh like most, mine runs cool at the moment, i stuck it back in the middle of the mesh last night and its running slightly hotter again...

Fizzer

Original Poster:

74 posts

251 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Mongoose - thanks for this.....I'm not really sure whether I am reassured - or further confused....I think I'll get the guys at TMS to have a look when I take her in for a service.
It was definately showing signs of heating up, and cooling down in opposite proportion to my speed - and I sort of put it down to a wind chill factor.....
Anyway - if I am running slightly cool, what would the possible consequences, could I be doing any long term damage?

Fizzer

Original Poster:

74 posts

251 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Hughesie2, mine is a '98, which I am lead to believe shouldn't have a grill....or at least - it doesn't have a grill...the number plate is fixed to the cross member - in the middle of where the grill would be.

zippee

14,128 posts

263 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Almost definitely windchill. Mine runs around 80-90 during the summer but now the cold air has hit is not running between 60 and 70 though does go up to around 80 when in traffic or idle.
A better indicator is to watch your oil pressure guage, this should drop slightly when the oil is thinner and up to temp.
You could also try putting a piece of cardboard over half your rad in order to block a little of the very cold air.

Lig

215 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Hi Fizzer,

To be honest, I really wouldnt worry about it. (well so long as the fans do cut in). As you have just got the car, I would run it for a while, if this is the norm for your car then so be it. If it changes rapidly either way then take it in!!

If it really is running a bit cool, it would mean it isnt running as economical as it should be - but no other harm.

Lig.

Fizzer

Original Poster:

74 posts

251 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Thanks Zippee - I did notice my oil pressure just dropping very slightly as the water got warmer......I feel much better now! Cheers!!

Fizzer

Original Poster:

74 posts

251 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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P.S. Zippee - I notice you are in Cambs...me too - Peterborough area - I'll give you a wave if I see you out and about!!
BTW where do you take yours for servicing...i'm about an hour from TMS, and although they have been very helpful in the past, I'd like to try to find somewhere a bit more local....