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They say you should never meet your heros but you could certainly extend that to watching your heros too if the first GP Masters event was anything to go by..
Complete pish. For those who were lucky enough to miss it...
30 lap race, with first 20 laps stage managed - first 2 or 3 to very obvious level - then final 10 laps were a bit more spirted but sadly by then the old spitters behind the wheel had cried enough and couldn't drive as hard as the car might let them!!
Dismal moments - Alan Jones gave up before the race because of a hurting neck, Johanson spinning on his own while the field circulated around 10 seconds off qualie pace, Laffite's obvious need for glasses and finally all the half hearted looks down the inside before the "after you, no after you" conclusion.
Too old, too slow, too fat and thinking of all the money they still have and would like to spend. Rubbish.
Complete pish. For those who were lucky enough to miss it...
30 lap race, with first 20 laps stage managed - first 2 or 3 to very obvious level - then final 10 laps were a bit more spirted but sadly by then the old spitters behind the wheel had cried enough and couldn't drive as hard as the car might let them!!
Dismal moments - Alan Jones gave up before the race because of a hurting neck, Johanson spinning on his own while the field circulated around 10 seconds off qualie pace, Laffite's obvious need for glasses and finally all the half hearted looks down the inside before the "after you, no after you" conclusion.
Too old, too slow, too fat and thinking of all the money they still have and would like to spend. Rubbish.
Watched a different race to me.
I thought it was pretty entartining, Certainly as good as if not better than most current GPs.
Give it a chance - the first third of the race was sedate as they we settling into the whole scene - as Murray was keen to point out. Once they got their "eye in", spome were pretty quick.
I thought it was pretty entartining, Certainly as good as if not better than most current GPs.
Give it a chance - the first third of the race was sedate as they we settling into the whole scene - as Murray was keen to point out. Once they got their "eye in", spome were pretty quick.
For the reasons Murray explained. Drivers feeling their way into the groove. Also, pacing themselves from a stamina point of view (quite a few were over 50) and keeping tyre wear in check.
There were at least four overtakes plus many more overtake ATTEMPTS.
Give the series and the drivers a chance. God knows, F1 has been using up its opportunities to "entertain" for about ten years - and on the whole, has been failing miserably.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 13th November 17:37
There were at least four overtakes plus many more overtake ATTEMPTS.
Give the series and the drivers a chance. God knows, F1 has been using up its opportunities to "entertain" for about ten years - and on the whole, has been failing miserably.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 13th November 17:37
I think you're forgetting that testing a car, and practice/qualifying, are a bit different to racing competitively, which most of those guys haven't done for at least 10 years (Lammers & Stuck excepted). I thought it was good entertainment, and you could see the drivers confidence improve immeasurably as the race went on. Even a bit of wheelbanging from De Chesaris late on. I think the driver's agreed not to race on the 1st lap, since it was about 8 seconds off the pace and nobody tried anything. Watching the replay's of Johansson's spin, he either changed down twice by mistake or something went wrong with the 'box/diff and threw him off. The cars have built in starter's, so there was nothing stopping him restarting the engine and continuing if it was a simple driver error.
I thought it was pretty damn good. You shouldn't judge GP Masters as you would A1 for example, its about the novelty of having a load of ex-F1 drivers racing again in equal cars. Of course they took it easy at the start - they hadnt RACED in years most of them. But as the race ran you could see them getting the racing spirit back, even drifting on the power! And to hear Muzza comentating again was awesome - reminder of how shit that James Allen is.
Yes Mansell probably was pacing it a little, but Emo was going for it, as was Warick, Danner and Hans Stuck.
Yes Mansell probably was pacing it a little, but Emo was going for it, as was Warick, Danner and Hans Stuck.
The Japanese GP was exceptional. It was not the norm. If it was the norm hardly antyone would be remarking about it.
F1 is the benchmark against which all motorsport is compared. Don't forget that F1 holds itself to be the best and most popular form of motorsport. Well, it has to watch itself at the moment because there are now a number of contenders chipping away at its monoply from the wings. If F1 doesn't re-assert itself over the next few years, it will become an Asia/Pacific championship ignored by Europeans (it's already largely ignored by most of North America) and possibly even the South Americans.
As for pacing, I think that was more to do with the drivers getting used to the cars etc. Of course, pacing has often been an inherent part of F1 and many fans bemoan the "sprint" style of modern F1 which does not reward good husbandry of brakes, gerabox, fuel, tyres etc.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 13th November 18:50
F1 is the benchmark against which all motorsport is compared. Don't forget that F1 holds itself to be the best and most popular form of motorsport. Well, it has to watch itself at the moment because there are now a number of contenders chipping away at its monoply from the wings. If F1 doesn't re-assert itself over the next few years, it will become an Asia/Pacific championship ignored by Europeans (it's already largely ignored by most of North America) and possibly even the South Americans.
As for pacing, I think that was more to do with the drivers getting used to the cars etc. Of course, pacing has often been an inherent part of F1 and many fans bemoan the "sprint" style of modern F1 which does not reward good husbandry of brakes, gerabox, fuel, tyres etc.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 13th November 18:50
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