The Price of Books
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Thelemming

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4,319 posts

295 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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Am I becoming a grumpy old man before my time, or are books becoming increasingly expensive?

I managed to find a softback copy of a book I've been after for a while, as well as noticing a newly released hardback by the same author. (Neil Asher for anyone curious, he writes excellent sci-fi).

Cowl, the softback, was £7.99...

This is crazy for a 300 page softcover!

The hardback ("Brass Man" admittedly a big book) was £19.

Most of the new release books seem to weigh in at about the same price, with the exception of the very few ultra-sellers that tescos etc discount to the bone (£12 IIRC for Thud was reasonable for a hardback, Paid less than a tenner for the last potter hardback and that was the size of a breeze block!).

I randomly go through phases of book buying, despite reading a couple a week I've a library of literally thousands so I tend to buy the latest books by my few "must own" authors and randomly spend a few months a year buying a couple a week when I fancy something new.

Are we going to see the start of "book piracy"? At softback prices pushing a tenner, it would be worth it for someone to feed a copy through OCR and print them themselves...

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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£7.99 for a softback doesn't seem expensive to me... ...

Eric Mc

125,742 posts

295 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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I think books are cheaper than they ever have been - in real terms.

scorp

8,783 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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I wonder if the increased use of the internet has had an effect on book sales, that would explain why prices have increased. It could be another case of "rip-off Britain" though

rich1231

17,340 posts

290 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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pdf's of new big titles are availalable to download...

dern

14,055 posts

309 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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8 quid for several hours entertainment seems pretty good value to me.

c c

8,054 posts

269 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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If £7.99 is too much there is always the local library. Read all you want for free.

Thelemming

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4,319 posts

295 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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My point being more the rate of increase, and unfortunately the rate I pile through, unless its highly technical or otherwise requires a lot of thought or internal translation (ie try reading Machiavelli's "The Prince", its small but will take a while to plow through due to the writing style being several centuries old) then I can easily clear 150 pages an hour.

I'm sure it was about a fiver for most softbacks last year...

c c

8,054 posts

269 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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Machiavelli's "The Prince" £3.99 from Amazon. (fee postage on orders over £15...)

I'd say books are in fact cheaper due to the big stores and companies like Amazon. The downside is the independent bookshops are suffering and the less popular titles will be relatively expensive and harder to find.

bga

8,134 posts

281 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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lots of very cheap secondhand books on Amazon Marketplace - lots of independent/small book stores sell through there.

I get most of my books from there & the wife recently saved £200 on the booklist for her MA course.
I do prefer brand new books, but I get through 1 a week & this makes so much more sense.

Abebooks is pretty good too.

ADDYBOY1982

693 posts

251 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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Tend to buy most of mine in Tesco's, although they only stock the latest best-sellers.

Still, got The World According To Clarkson for £4 instead of £8

Thelemming

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4,319 posts

295 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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Hmm Cowl softback and Brass Man hardback for under £18 from amazon bought together...

New Feist Hardback £11 instead of the £20 retail.

Judas Unchained - the new Peter F Hamilton 1000 page hardback - £11 (Never buy his softbacks! They are just too big to survive years of re-reading in softback format.)

Looks like Ottakers / Waterstones / the rest of the bookshops I frequent are going to lose my business. I didnt realise there was such a price differential!

Its a shame really, I like bookshops and browsing through them - every so often a new author jumps out at you and your able to have a quick flick through and see if it grabs you.

fruitcake

3,850 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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I do think books are becoming more expensive - and I don't believe that the price rises with inflaction.

Even Osprey Military bookas are now nudging £13 which is just far too much for what you get.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

288 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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rich1231 said:
pdf's of new big titles are availalable to download...


True - still, unless you've got the latest in palmtop PCs it's not exactly portable is it?

Pigeon

18,535 posts

276 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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c c said:
Machiavelli's "The Prince" £3.99 from Amazon. (free postage on orders over £15...)

Yeah, but why would you want four copies of it?

c c

8,054 posts

269 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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Pigeon said:
c c said:
Machiavelli's "The Prince" £3.99 from Amazon. (free postage on orders over £15...)

Yeah, but why would you want four copies of it?


Christmas Presents ..

ecks ridgehead

4,285 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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c c said:
Machiavelli's "The Prince" £3.99 from Amazon. (fee postage on orders over £15...)


...or it's free to download here at Project Gutenberg.

It's an online catalogue of about 17,000 books whose copyright has expired. Mainly old stuff, and obviously you'd either have to read them on screen or print them out yourself, but it's good to know. I downloaded Gulliver's Travels, The Prince, Thus Spake Zarathustra and The Art Of War from there.

Thelemming

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4,319 posts

295 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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ecks ridgehead said:
c c said:
Machiavelli's "The Prince" £3.99 from Amazon. (fee postage on orders over £15...)


...or it's free to download here at Project Gutenberg.

It's an online catalogue of about 17,000 books whose copyright has expired. Mainly old stuff, and obviously you'd either have to read them on screen or print them out yourself, but it's good to know. I downloaded Gulliver's Travels, The Prince, Thus Spake Zarathustra and The Art Of War from there.



Great when its quiet at work as well.

They've got most of the classics, but there are a lot of gaps due to the constant extension of copyrights in the states...

alc

366 posts

254 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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What about the price of magazines? £4 or £5 for something designed to be read and discarded - and usually pays for itself by all the ads it carries anyway.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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Thelemming said:
Am I becoming a grumpy old man before my time, or are books becoming increasingly expensive?


Must be or you'd remember the net book agreement...