can you have too much bandwidth?
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Our corporate website (clustered Win2003 boxes) attracts over 35million hits/month (haven't got the daily data tranfer stats to hand) - and we get constant complaints about speed of access.
One factor we know about is code-bloat our new CMS system has made the pages full of css and javascript - we are dealing with that.
However, can we ever have too much connectivity to the internet?
I ask because of IT Manager is dead against upgrading bandwidth even though the business has said - we don't care about the price (which ain't that much in the grand scheme of things).
For example - we are currently at 3.6 MBS - his proposal was to upgrade to 4MBS. Seemed thoroughly pointless but it still took us 2 months to persuade an upgrade to 10.
Anyhoo (and apologies for the ramble) the business has today said - WTF why not just go to 20 MBS and be done with it - we'll be ahead of the game for a goodly while.
IT Manager is dead against it - any idea why?
TIA
FG
One factor we know about is code-bloat our new CMS system has made the pages full of css and javascript - we are dealing with that.
However, can we ever have too much connectivity to the internet?
I ask because of IT Manager is dead against upgrading bandwidth even though the business has said - we don't care about the price (which ain't that much in the grand scheme of things).
For example - we are currently at 3.6 MBS - his proposal was to upgrade to 4MBS. Seemed thoroughly pointless but it still took us 2 months to persuade an upgrade to 10.
Anyhoo (and apologies for the ramble) the business has today said - WTF why not just go to 20 MBS and be done with it - we'll be ahead of the game for a goodly while.
IT Manager is dead against it - any idea why?
TIA
FG
There's only 1 reason not to upgrade your b/w, Cost.
If cost isn't an issue, the there is no downside to having more bandwidth, the more the merrier.
I added a new Gbit link a month back, and have another one coming in the next month or so.. the more connections the better.
3-4mbit is very very low given you have no burst (i am assuming leased line into office)
Have you considered outsourcing the hosting of the server to a Datacentre? Could end up being ALOT cheaper, and infinitely faster.
Feel free to drop me a line via profile if needed, or click on the banner in the top for one of my 'low cost dedicated server' solutions.
J
If cost isn't an issue, the there is no downside to having more bandwidth, the more the merrier.
I added a new Gbit link a month back, and have another one coming in the next month or so.. the more connections the better.
3-4mbit is very very low given you have no burst (i am assuming leased line into office)
Have you considered outsourcing the hosting of the server to a Datacentre? Could end up being ALOT cheaper, and infinitely faster.
Feel free to drop me a line via profile if needed, or click on the banner in the top for one of my 'low cost dedicated server' solutions.
J
FunkyGibbon said:
I ask because of IT Manager is dead against upgrading bandwidth even though the business has said - we don't care about the price (which ain't that much in the grand scheme of things
Either he's an idiot or perhaps upgrading will mean a change of providor and he'll lose his kickback.
He may also have an issue with the CMS implementation and figures it's one way to prove his point.
You can never have too much bandwidth.
Assuming cost isn't an issue anywhere down the line. Then it's either kick backs or politics.
He doesn't want it because it'd mean accepting an idea from someone further up the chain he wants to replace (or dislikes). Or he doesn't want to accept an idea from an underling which would then intemate that you could do his job to his superiors.
Of course if he worked for the same company I do at any time in his life then he is just very very dumb.
He doesn't want it because it'd mean accepting an idea from someone further up the chain he wants to replace (or dislikes). Or he doesn't want to accept an idea from an underling which would then intemate that you could do his job to his superiors.
Of course if he worked for the same company I do at any time in his life then he is just very very dumb.
but we get through about 1gig of bandwidth a day, sometimes more if we downloading loads!.
Thanks guys - these comments fall in line with what I was thinking.
Jamie - use of a datacentre is probably part of the long term strategy (as well as mirrored centres around the globe) - but we need to get the servers and apps all tidied up in a coherent manner first.
_dobbo_ - yep correct CSS should make pages nice and small I agree. Currently our new CMS solution doesn't seem to do that. Our developers are on the case.
cheers
FG
Jamie - use of a datacentre is probably part of the long term strategy (as well as mirrored centres around the globe) - but we need to get the servers and apps all tidied up in a coherent manner first.
_dobbo_ - yep correct CSS should make pages nice and small I agree. Currently our new CMS solution doesn't seem to do that. Our developers are on the case.
cheers
FG
2 Smokin Barrels said:
Different, but related.
My home connection is 1.1 mbps...and PH works like a dream (F9)
G/f home connection is 2.2 mbps (AOL) and PH takes forever between screens, and when posting. (Every other site I've visited is OK)
Why might that be?
Your host (AOL) might be too busy and as a result would be slow to respond.
FunkyGibbon said:
Thanks guys - these comments fall in line with what I was thinking.
Jamie - use of a datacentre is probably part of the long term strategy (as well as mirrored centres around the globe) - but we need to get the servers and apps all tidied up in a coherent manner first.
FG
Always a good plan, you'd be surprised how many companies in a similar situation we get knocking on the door (emails saturating our DLS link, someone in sales keeps sending out huge PDF brochures to clients, we offer trial downloads of our software, and the MD cant get his mail everytime someones downloads it) they are ALWAYS much happier once its offsite (and off their plate!) J
scorp said:
Different, but related.
My home connection is 1.1 mbps...and PH works like a dream (F9)
G/f home connection is 2.2 mbps (AOL) and PH takes forever between screens, and when posting. (Every other site I've visited is OK)
Why might that be?
Your host (AOL) might be too busy and as a result would be slow to respond.
Thanks Scorp. I wondered that, but it is all the time.
2 Smokin Barrels said:
Different, but related.
My home connection is 1.1 mbps...and PH works like a dream (F9)
G/f home connection is 2.2 mbps (AOL) and PH takes forever between screens, and when posting. (Every other site I've visited is OK)
Why might that be?
Your host (AOL) might be too busy and as a result would be slow to respond.
Thanks Scorp. I wondered that, but it is all the time.
Do a google for contention ratios, AOL's is prob shite.
:fark: *grumble* bloody telcomms monopolies Back to the original question, I don't necessarily think the manager is an idiot. He may be scrooge-like, but perhaps it's what his budget allows. Like Jamie says, an outsourced hosting option will be vastly preferrential in all ways, and most importantly on cost. The only caveat for that is if there's masses of data being transferred to/from legacy systems & the server, in which case it would possibly need to be located on-site or if you're lucky review the processes at play...
Ciao
Zak
Ciao
Zak
This only applies to those with coporate interest.
If insourceing is affordable, outsourcing is unnaceptable IMO, unless you really understand the risks and don't care which muppet has physical access to your server(s).
If you're storing company data or are running company sensitive data trafic, you need to know IPSec from the ground up. Running firewalls on the same machine as you're protecting is pointless at this level. If you outsource it you have no idea what else is on your subnet.
If insourceing is affordable, outsourcing is unnaceptable IMO, unless you really understand the risks and don't care which muppet has physical access to your server(s).
If you're storing company data or are running company sensitive data trafic, you need to know IPSec from the ground up. Running firewalls on the same machine as you're protecting is pointless at this level. If you outsource it you have no idea what else is on your subnet.
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