Lombard RAC Rally 2005 - This week!
Discussion
www.endurorally.com/extra7.html
I'm planning to be out and about with the cameras at Wollaton Park in Nottingham on the Friday PM/Evening - anybody want to join me?
More to the point, can anyone remember the 1985 Lombard RAC route through the Park? I'd like to be in position at a good photo location (bearing in mind it will be dark if the times I have seen are correct - hmm, batteries for the flash units) before the cars start to arrive.
Here's a press release.
LOMBARD REVIVAL RALLY SETS NEW STANDARDS
The 2nd Lombard Revival Rally is flagged away from Cowley,
Oxford, on Thursday night, for the start of four demanding
days and nights with an authentic route which revives the
traditional spirit of the Lombard RAC Rally.
Nearly 140 entries, all built to the new 1400cc Formula
launched recently by the Motor Sports Association (the UK
governing body), underline the growing popularity for what
is the only totally fresh initiative in recent years for
Britain's rally scene.
A total of 38 crews are wearing distinctive red door
numbers as past competitors of the original Lombard
rallies. They include former winner Neil Wilson, driving
his own Ford Puma, who won in 1985 as co-driver alongside
Henri Toivonen; and Britain's oldest rally regular,
78-year-old Willy Cave. "You should never give up, and you
are never too old; one day I will win this event," says the
man who was in the Standard Pennant team with Paddy Hopkirk
when they finished third overall in 1954.
The youngest competitor is 14-year-old Robert Lloyd,
navigating his father in a Volvo which cost £300, probably
the cheapest rally car in the line-up.
They all face a gruelling 1,200 miles around the UK, with
12-hour days. "This could not be more different from the
World Championship rallies of today," says Neil Wilson. "We
do our own servicing, we have no advance practice, no
pacenotes, and we get 52 off-road venues, timed to the
second, including famous forests, country parks, hillclimbs,
circuits, every kind of surface, night after day, day after
night. . . The atmosphere is brilliant, just like the
Lombards of old."
Cars set out on the Abingdon Circuit prologue on Thursday
14 November; on Friday, they drive via Silverstone to
Nottingham, where at 16.30 - just as darkness falls -
drivers face an authentic re-enactment of the city-centre
Wollaton Park stage from the 1985 road-book, before ending
the night several hours later at Chester. Leg three leaves
Chester on Saturday and heads via Radnor Forest to end the
day in the Forest of Dean and Caerwent before the rest halt
at Newport. On Sunday, the final leg, there are no fewer
than 19 venues, including Esgair Dafyd, Eppynt and Sweet
Lamb, before finishing at the Great Orme in Llandudno.
Several manufacturers are supporting cars, this new
Endurance Rally formula being the only branch of the modern
British club scene to attract factory interest. Mercedes
are supporting an A-Class, one of the more unsual entrants,
with Vauxhall, Daihatsu and Suzuki also involved. Britain's
local motor clubs and nearly 1,000 marshals form the
backbone of the event organisation, which has been steered
by the Endurance Rally Association.
"We are delighted to be back," says Neil Edwards of Lombard,
"and every car is a clubman. The winning names go onto the
original trophies alongside Carlos Sainz from 1983; we are
just picking up where we left off in every respect, with a
concept that is bang up to date, with all cars
environmentally friendly and all cars we can identity with,
in showroom standard condition. It will be highly
competitive, with every car on the same Colway tyres, and
everyone on much the same horsepower. Something unique and
rather special in British rallying is now unfolding."
The Lombard Revival Rally is supported by Colway Motorsport
Tyres.
For more information, including a full entry list, route
and photographs, please visit www.endurorally.com
or contact:
The Endurance Rally Association
5, Ashbrook Mews
Westbrook Street
Blewbury
Oxon OX11 9QA
T: 01235 851291
F: 01235 851292
E: mail@endurorally.com
I'm planning to be out and about with the cameras at Wollaton Park in Nottingham on the Friday PM/Evening - anybody want to join me?
More to the point, can anyone remember the 1985 Lombard RAC route through the Park? I'd like to be in position at a good photo location (bearing in mind it will be dark if the times I have seen are correct - hmm, batteries for the flash units) before the cars start to arrive.
Here's a press release.
LOMBARD REVIVAL RALLY SETS NEW STANDARDS
The 2nd Lombard Revival Rally is flagged away from Cowley,
Oxford, on Thursday night, for the start of four demanding
days and nights with an authentic route which revives the
traditional spirit of the Lombard RAC Rally.
Nearly 140 entries, all built to the new 1400cc Formula
launched recently by the Motor Sports Association (the UK
governing body), underline the growing popularity for what
is the only totally fresh initiative in recent years for
Britain's rally scene.
A total of 38 crews are wearing distinctive red door
numbers as past competitors of the original Lombard
rallies. They include former winner Neil Wilson, driving
his own Ford Puma, who won in 1985 as co-driver alongside
Henri Toivonen; and Britain's oldest rally regular,
78-year-old Willy Cave. "You should never give up, and you
are never too old; one day I will win this event," says the
man who was in the Standard Pennant team with Paddy Hopkirk
when they finished third overall in 1954.
The youngest competitor is 14-year-old Robert Lloyd,
navigating his father in a Volvo which cost £300, probably
the cheapest rally car in the line-up.
They all face a gruelling 1,200 miles around the UK, with
12-hour days. "This could not be more different from the
World Championship rallies of today," says Neil Wilson. "We
do our own servicing, we have no advance practice, no
pacenotes, and we get 52 off-road venues, timed to the
second, including famous forests, country parks, hillclimbs,
circuits, every kind of surface, night after day, day after
night. . . The atmosphere is brilliant, just like the
Lombards of old."
Cars set out on the Abingdon Circuit prologue on Thursday
14 November; on Friday, they drive via Silverstone to
Nottingham, where at 16.30 - just as darkness falls -
drivers face an authentic re-enactment of the city-centre
Wollaton Park stage from the 1985 road-book, before ending
the night several hours later at Chester. Leg three leaves
Chester on Saturday and heads via Radnor Forest to end the
day in the Forest of Dean and Caerwent before the rest halt
at Newport. On Sunday, the final leg, there are no fewer
than 19 venues, including Esgair Dafyd, Eppynt and Sweet
Lamb, before finishing at the Great Orme in Llandudno.
Several manufacturers are supporting cars, this new
Endurance Rally formula being the only branch of the modern
British club scene to attract factory interest. Mercedes
are supporting an A-Class, one of the more unsual entrants,
with Vauxhall, Daihatsu and Suzuki also involved. Britain's
local motor clubs and nearly 1,000 marshals form the
backbone of the event organisation, which has been steered
by the Endurance Rally Association.
"We are delighted to be back," says Neil Edwards of Lombard,
"and every car is a clubman. The winning names go onto the
original trophies alongside Carlos Sainz from 1983; we are
just picking up where we left off in every respect, with a
concept that is bang up to date, with all cars
environmentally friendly and all cars we can identity with,
in showroom standard condition. It will be highly
competitive, with every car on the same Colway tyres, and
everyone on much the same horsepower. Something unique and
rather special in British rallying is now unfolding."
The Lombard Revival Rally is supported by Colway Motorsport
Tyres.
For more information, including a full entry list, route
and photographs, please visit www.endurorally.com
or contact:
The Endurance Rally Association
5, Ashbrook Mews
Westbrook Street
Blewbury
Oxon OX11 9QA
T: 01235 851291
F: 01235 851292
E: mail@endurorally.com
Give me a wave, I'm navigating for Jamie Turner in car 47, a BRG Rover Metro GTi.
I can't wait! I've plotted the small amount of information thats already been sent to the competitors, the route looks fantastic, some really good venues being used.
I just hope that Jamie and I can continue our form from the Welsh Enduro back in August
I can't wait! I've plotted the small amount of information thats already been sent to the competitors, the route looks fantastic, some really good venues being used.
I just hope that Jamie and I can continue our form from the Welsh Enduro back in August
grahamdance said:
Give me a wave, I'm navigating for Jamie Turner in car 47, a BRG Rover Metro GTi.
I can't wait! I've plotted the small amount of information thats already been sent to the competitors, the route looks fantastic, some really good venues being used.
I just hope that Jamie and I can continue our form from the Welsh Enduro back in August
Sure thing. I'll aim for a few snaps as well.
The info in the press release above is wrong is seems - not only the wrong date but the wrong time of first car arrival.
People have been advised at Rally HQ.
Hopefully the route between Silverstone and Nottingham will avoid the M1 which can be completely horrendous northbound from around mid-day on a Friday. Mind you Nottingham late PM on a Friday will not be much fun for the higher numbers.
I'm wondering if I can get over to one of the Welsh forest stages as well. Can I justify the time and cost?
Lombard Rally 2005 at Wollaton Park, Nottingham.
Some piccies - untouched except for re-sizing and crushing for the web.
As you can see from this long shot of the start line it was quite a bright and sunny, though cold, day in Nottingham. Just as well as the selctif started about an hour late, which was fine except for the cold beginning to take a real hold and, from a photo perspective, light fading earlier than anticipated in the procedings.
Some hardy spectators - day 2 of 5 for them! (And there were quite a few who seemed to be heading for every spectator stage as well. Excellent support).
And a general view while we waited.
Due to some processing issues I don't have scans of all the shots yet so the early sunny ones are very thin in the ground - I'll post more when I have scanned them. But, in no particular order, here we go.
I did see Graham Dance passing - just as I was getting into position at a new location which was a bit dark. Think I should have a shot of the car in one of the still to be scanned films but not sure how usable it is.
>> Edited by LongQ on Saturday 26th November 02:01
Some piccies - untouched except for re-sizing and crushing for the web.
As you can see from this long shot of the start line it was quite a bright and sunny, though cold, day in Nottingham. Just as well as the selctif started about an hour late, which was fine except for the cold beginning to take a real hold and, from a photo perspective, light fading earlier than anticipated in the procedings.
Some hardy spectators - day 2 of 5 for them! (And there were quite a few who seemed to be heading for every spectator stage as well. Excellent support).
And a general view while we waited.
Due to some processing issues I don't have scans of all the shots yet so the early sunny ones are very thin in the ground - I'll post more when I have scanned them. But, in no particular order, here we go.
I did see Graham Dance passing - just as I was getting into position at a new location which was a bit dark. Think I should have a shot of the car in one of the still to be scanned films but not sure how usable it is.
>> Edited by LongQ on Saturday 26th November 02:01
ccharlie6 said:
what kind of a motorsport event is this? as said above no helmets?? isn't that just slightly dangerous? i know they arent driving WRC cars but i also assume they arent driving at 10mph
From the Rally Website..
"Q: What safety gear do I need?
Your car must have a roll-over hoop, a fire-extinguisher, and full-harness belts. Just about everyone changes the seats, but that is not actually mandatory. Additional wheels, jack and spares need to be securely bolted down."
No mention of helmets ???
So if you stuff / roll the car and any of the extra kit comes loose and smacks you in the head you'll really wish you spent another £50 on a lid...
Very, very strange indeed.
Some good pics there! Went down to watch the start in Oxford with a couple of mates, going to have to look into costs for next year as it looks to be great fun.
Regarding helmets - if you were driving 1200 miles in 4 days would you want to wear one? Didn't think so, I know I wouldn't! And most people will be sensible enough to strap down any tool boxes etc with decent ratchet straps so shouldn't be an issue, if it was considered unsafe it wouldn't be allowed
Regarding helmets - if you were driving 1200 miles in 4 days would you want to wear one? Didn't think so, I know I wouldn't! And most people will be sensible enough to strap down any tool boxes etc with decent ratchet straps so shouldn't be an issue, if it was considered unsafe it wouldn't be allowed
I was watching up in the Brecons by Halfway today. In the morning there was loads of sheet ice and the snow stayed around all day. It was very good and great to see loads of cars still running, well done guys.
Helmets are optional, intercoms are banned. It is not a stage rally. It is an endurance rally, these run in a similar way to road rallies so the average speeds are kept down to much lower levels than stage rallying.
Cheers
Helmets are optional, intercoms are banned. It is not a stage rally. It is an endurance rally, these run in a similar way to road rallies so the average speeds are kept down to much lower levels than stage rallying.
Cheers
Took the plunge and went to watch at Sweet Lamb today. Oddly no relevant digital shots. I arrived early (Scamer van outside the entrance at that time) only to find the event was running late. Then discovered it was running late from a revised schedule which was already an hour later than the times I had!
So I was rather cold by the time things started to happen and didn't get into my normal swing of mixing up shots from different cameras. Not helped by the good light beginning to go by the time the action started. Oh well, never mind. I'll get the films processed as soon as I can.
Saw a couple of crews wearing helmets - though without intercomms they must be a problem - also the weight for several hours a day would have an adverse effect on many oldish necks. One navigator wearing a cycling helmet - protection against the roll cage head bang I suppose.
Quite a bit of damage around. But still a lot of people running a hard pace and at least a couple of cars I spotted still running despite having been reported as retired. Good efforts all round considering the cars are virtually road spec and will have covered about 1000 or more rough miles up to that point in just 4 days.
And yes, it certainly does look like fun.
So I was rather cold by the time things started to happen and didn't get into my normal swing of mixing up shots from different cameras. Not helped by the good light beginning to go by the time the action started. Oh well, never mind. I'll get the films processed as soon as I can.
Saw a couple of crews wearing helmets - though without intercomms they must be a problem - also the weight for several hours a day would have an adverse effect on many oldish necks. One navigator wearing a cycling helmet - protection against the roll cage head bang I suppose.
Quite a bit of damage around. But still a lot of people running a hard pace and at least a couple of cars I spotted still running despite having been reported as retired. Good efforts all round considering the cars are virtually road spec and will have covered about 1000 or more rough miles up to that point in just 4 days.
And yes, it certainly does look like fun.
Initial reports are that Jamie Turner/Graham Dance have won, Matt Fowle/Peter Joy second.
If its correct then Well Done to you chaps, you looked very good when I saw you come through.
Well Done to everyone that finished, thats one hell of an acheivement, and Well done to everyone that took part.
Matt
If its correct then Well Done to you chaps, you looked very good when I saw you come through.
Well Done to everyone that finished, thats one hell of an acheivement, and Well done to everyone that took part.
Matt
nightdriver said:
Initial reports are that Jamie Turner/Graham Dance have won, Matt Fowle/Peter Joy second.
If its correct then Well Done to you chaps, you looked very good when I saw you come through.
Well Done to everyone that finished, thats one hell of an acheivement, and Well done to everyone that took part.
Matt
Seconded.
Jamie and Graham were a couple of minutes behind overnight iirc so that is some result. And I have to say the guys in front of them through Sweet Lamb looked faster. The Corsa's/Nova's looked better suited than the Metro to the bits I of the selectif I could see - but then speed is not everything.
Owen Turner was still running as well despite reports that he had retired at some point yesterday.
Hi All
I was the driver of car 78 a white 1lt Nissan Micra
If you do have any shots of my car or that of car 44 a mates car that we finished 1.07 seconds behind I would be very great full if you could sent them to me at rob.navin@btinternet.com.
This was our first ever rally and we managed to come home in 53 place out of 139 starters.
The event was great fun.
You are able to wear open-faced helmets if you want to on the selectives.
If you are interested in cost drop me an e-mail and I will let you have a break down on what I have spent this year if that helps
I was the driver of car 78 a white 1lt Nissan Micra
If you do have any shots of my car or that of car 44 a mates car that we finished 1.07 seconds behind I would be very great full if you could sent them to me at rob.navin@btinternet.com.
This was our first ever rally and we managed to come home in 53 place out of 139 starters.
The event was great fun.
You are able to wear open-faced helmets if you want to on the selectives.
If you are interested in cost drop me an e-mail and I will let you have a break down on what I have spent this year if that helps
Rob Navin said:
Hi All
I was the driver of car 78 a white 1lt Nissan Micra
If you do have any shots of my car or that of car 44 a mates car that we finished 1.07 seconds behind I would be very great full if you could sent them to me at rob.navin@btinternet.com.
This was our first ever rally and we managed to come home in 53 place out of 139 starters.
The event was great fun.
You are able to wear open-faced helmets if you want to on the selectives.
If you are interested in cost drop me an e-mail and I will let you have a break down on what I have spent this year if that helps
If you both made it to the first selectif on Sunday morning (just outside St Arvans) then I'll have a pic of both cars.
Will download them from the camera later in the week and E-mail you what I've got.
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