What Do You Get If You Cross An Isuzu Trooper With A Wedge?
What Do You Get If You Cross An Isuzu Trooper With A Wedge?
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Gandalf

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2,381 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Ouch!
My 400SE nearside rear and yes (before anyone asks)
MY TROOPER TOO!!





Look it was bit foggy, thats my excuse alright!
The hood was down and I just happend not to notice the 2.5 Tonne LWB Trooper (which I parked earlier ) behind me as I was reversing into one of my parking bays, doh!

Still its been made temporarily better for the meantime and is back on the road already

badredwedge

3,450 posts

257 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Steve, Thats NO WAY to treat a 400, still it didnt look too bad yesterday even with the Dulux one coat gloss paint job and yes them Troopers are VERY hard things I had one up to a year or so ago 3.1 TD LWB 230k miles and Its still going strong.



>> Edited by badredwedge on Monday 21st November 13:49

AM400

1,196 posts

292 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Ouch!

Sorry to see the damage Steve but I guess those spare lights that you brought from me will come in handy!

Andy

wedg1e

27,034 posts

294 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Know the feeling, mate...

I reversed my 390 in full confidence that there was nothing behind me... except a very hard, very firmly planted BIN.

Still, it gave me some practice at GRP repairs...

pwd95

8,452 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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You must be

RMeier

202 posts

262 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Backed my estate out of the garage a couple of months ago. Trouble is I forgot to open the garage door! Car was fine - garage door not...
In the wedge my fear is that when taking the roof off you have to open both doors, and if you try and reverse out of the garage without shutting the passenger door first.... I know the car will come off worse.
Hope you get yours fixed soon
regards Bob

Gandalf

Original Poster:

2,381 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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AM400 said:
Ouch!

Sorry to see the damage Steve but I guess those spare lights that you brought from me will come in handy!

Andy


It must have been fate, when I bought those off you Andy, I came over to West Mids TVRCC meet yesterday in case you were there just to show you.

As for fibreglass repairs, Wedgie, having our own boat building workshop has its uses, sometimes!

Broke it on Friday, Fixed it on Saturday Driving it Sunday!




gsx600

2,740 posts

277 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Steve

What filler are you using there ? And have you any success with it not cracking ?

As I'm trying to sort out the stress cracks by headlamps. Started by reinforcing the back, then grinding out 1/4 inch swathe about 3/4 wide but need to find a suitable filler that wont crack on me - unlike the last one I used

Cheers

Paul

digga951

490 posts

304 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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If you really want to get rid of the stress cracks around the lights, you're gonna need something better than filler. I've just put a new front on my car following a crash, and I had LOADS of cracking to sort out. The areas that I just ground out and filled over have cracked again in a matter of weeks, coming straight through my nice new paint.

Since then, I have sought expert advice! You need to lightly grind away the surface of each crack, probably an inch or on so each side of the crack, and probably about 2-3mm deep into the fibreglass. Then, the only way to stop them coming back is to get some tissue fibreglass matting, and gel a couple of layers over each crack. Let it set over night, sand it down, and then finish with a fine filler. Plastic Padding Ultima is what I used and yielded some really good results. Just putting the matting on the underside of the crack will not stop the cracks from re-appearing.

At least with a wedge, when you come to repaint the front, there are some good places to mask up. You can remove the side stripe on the front wings, and spray everything from this point up, including the flat panel where the badge is. Put a new side stripe on over the paint join to disguise it. Probably saves a lot of money as you don't have to have the entire front end sprayed.

Dan.

wedg1e

27,034 posts

294 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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What I did after my bin incident was to grind off the raggy bits behind the impact area, line up the edges then rebuild with mat and resin. Then chop out the gel side, rebuild with P40 chopped mat/ resin, then top off with P38. Minor details were filled with cellulose putty as they showed up in the primer.

Then I ran out of good weather and work stopped...

Gandalf

Original Poster:

2,381 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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gsx600 said:
Steve

What filler are you using there ? And have you any success with it not cracking ?

As I'm trying to sort out the stress cracks by headlamps. Started by reinforcing the back, then grinding out 1/4 inch swathe about 3/4 wide but need to find a suitable filler that wont crack on me - unlike the last one I used

Cheers

Paul

Hi Paul not guaranteeing this will not re-crack but-
I have just made a running repair - until such time as I can spare the wedge for a week or so to get it done properly - but I have removed all damaged and ripped glass before rebuilding about a 10" area behind the cracks with around 5 layers of 450 grm chopped strand mat this has made the whole area much stiffer than original (the whole area needs a thorough clean an keying before applying glass this should help the "flappy bits" to stick to the new glass thus preventing vibration at the edges of the repairs and, I hope, future cracking?
Then the outside has been filled with a structural adhesive/filler we use called Crestomer 1186 from Scott Bader then final fairing with Norpol Superfine Polyester filler.

Hope this all makes sense?

redwedge5

583 posts

290 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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I own a wedge and a LWB Isuzu trooper, but I think I'll give this experiment a miss! Infact just got the Trooper back today from the bodyshop after a whitevan decided to rear end me

stainless_steve

6,051 posts

287 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Ouch

But it's great news you could sort it out so quick

Gandalf

Original Poster:

2,381 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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stainless_steve said:
Ouch

But it's great news you could sort it out so quick



P`raps I should look into having some rear stainless nudge bars manufactured & fitted - from the replies it sounds as though there may be a bit of a market with wedge owners!

gsx600

2,740 posts

277 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Is polyester filler easy to find for a normal consumer ? As I have been told that this type gives one of the best flexes and thus reduces the cracks ?

Cheers

Paul

combine

3,114 posts

258 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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guess how they reverse those big semi trucks - small camera located on chassis near rear axle with screen on dash - sounds a good idea - about 100 quid !

AM400

1,196 posts

292 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Thats a quick repair Steve, well done!

Glad the light came in useful, I will make it to a midlands meet one day...honest!

Andy

stainless_steve

6,051 posts

287 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Gandalf said:
stainless_steve said:
Ouch

But it's great news you could sort it out so quick



P`raps I should look into having some rear stainless nudge bars manufactured & fitted - from the replies it sounds as though there may be a bit of a market with wedge owners!


or maybe this

www.mydadstoys.co.uk/PedalCars/PedalCars.htm

cuneus

5,963 posts

271 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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WRT to polyester fillers these can be found in most motor factors e.g. UPOL and Isopon

This might be of useas well:

www.gibbs111.fsnet.co.uk/grp.htm

Hormone

823 posts

266 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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[quote]Get this light on Ebay fast you'll get a fortune for it!
Seriously though, I'm sorry to see the damage. I reversed into my wifes Mazda 6 a couple of months ago. Luckily the Mazda came of worse.
Reading this thread it would appear us Wedgers should never engage reverse gear.