Micknall, a question...
Micknall, a question...
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BCA

Original Poster:

8,651 posts

286 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Did the person who set up the Noble M12s suspension have any involvement in the development of the TVR Sagaris's handling??

Theres a rather huge argument going on here about it and I would love you to clear the matter up please. Perhaps if he sees the answer from the PR man of Noble he'll back down, sorry to interrupt your otherwise busy schedule with something so trivial.

thanks in advance,
Ben CA

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Nope.

Micknall confirmed here that JC's comment on Top Gear was incorrect.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=26&h=&t=192402

J

Ash M400

3,836 posts

270 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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I second joust

micknall

826 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Hi Ben,

Lee Noble is, and always has been, the brains behind every single aspect of all versions of the M12 we've launched. And that includes dynamic development. No one - and I should make this absolutely clear - has ever taken responsibility for the way in which our cars steer, ride, handle mand grip, other than Lee. Needless to say, he's never had anything to do with the design or engineering of any TVR, either.

What Clarkson said about 'the same person being responsible for the Noble's and Sagaris's chassis set-up' is completely incorrect. Furthermore, when quizzed the researchers (script writers) at Top Gear could not explain the quip; better still, neither could Ian Law, TVR's PR, when I rang him.

Hope this settles your discussion.

Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Oh come come now Simon, surely you gave an incy wincy bit of feedback to Lee on the 3R to M400 development

J

BCA

Original Poster:

8,651 posts

286 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Thanks, that will hopefully clear up this argument once and for all.

Marlon

735 posts

287 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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micknall said:
Lee Noble is, and always has been, the brains behind every single aspect of all versions of the M12 we've launched. And that includes dynamic development. No one - and I should make this absolutely clear - has ever taken responsibility for the way in which our cars steer, ride, handle mand grip, other than Lee.
Crikey, I bet you wrap him in cotton wool before you let him out of the office! Don't let that man do anything dangerous!

BCA

Original Poster:

8,651 posts

286 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Argument has been settled, knew it was Lee Noble, what a genius that man is.

The Sagaris is as far as I can work out a combination of Niel Anderson(now ex TVR) and bilstein.

Thanks again Simon, I look forward to either working with you at Noble or taking your job in future (I can dream!!!)

Lee Noble is an absolute inspiration to people like me, creates and continues a company of ridiculously rapid british sportscars that exceed expectations on almost every level. He lives my ambitions.

One day, one day...

ashgaunt

78 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th November 2005
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Your right tho simon...
Lee makes it VERY clear that no designs leave the premises unless its his and thats that, its his company. I gave the man my help when he asked for it and for that he burned my fingers. The base engineering is done by Lee, its his gig. Maybe there has been some confusion with journos somewhere? I designed lots of subsytems and helped with the suspension, designed the ARB's and set the rates, so this is suspension, built half his race car and helped him at races for free.

Just thought that the bullshit should stop here. He's the best engineer I ever met and I picked up much of what I know from him but his best bit of advice to me was "Don't help anyone... Don't do anyone any favours..." He sticks to his guns.






>> Edited by ashgaunt on Thursday 24th November 22:58

>> Edited by ashgaunt on Friday 25th November 01:16

autocomtom

6 posts

255 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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For some strange reason I though I heard Roush helped with the M400 development somewhere? If so what did they contribute?

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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Trevor Jasper (yellowshed on here) at roush did the mapping for the M400, as he did for the 3. Nice bloke as well.
HTH
Alex

amg merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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autocomtom said:
For some strange reason I though I heard Roush helped with the M400 development somewhere? If so what did they contribute?


Not too sure but the M14 engines are coming from Roush.