Which TVR do I buy
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Bumcrack

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977 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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Hi all

Can anyone help me with a few questions I have.
I love the look of most TVR's and have always wanted one, but the reliabilty issue has put me off, I'm thinking of spending 18-23k on a TVR, it won't be my daily driver, but it has to get me to places at weekends and the odd bit of shopping.
The cost of the insurance doesn't really matter much. I want something fast and not old (98 on really)
I would like the most reliable of the breed if possible and something that isn't a forture to service, only going to do about 5k a year though.
I was thinking of a Cerbra 4.2 or 4.5, what do you lot think?

Regards

simpo one

89,629 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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One thing that splits the choice early on is whether you want a roof that comes off. Are you not fussy, or do you definitely want a tin(GRP)-top?

Certainly you have the right sort of loot to get a very decent Cerbera, Chimaera or Griffith.

beano1197

20,854 posts

292 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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Last two statements of yours, Bumcrack, are contradictory.

For the capital and the lowest day to day cost per bhp/tonne you'll be looking at a Griffith or Chimaera.

A Cerbera will be available for the money but I think most will agree that you can budget more for running costs.

Trawl through some PHers car profiles to see if you can get a feel for the running costs

If you're after plenty of power, fun handling, great driving, servicing available by independents or DIY, and something to turn peoples heads, any of them will give you what you want IMHO. Next it's down to whether you want the roof off, and what you can find. Don't succumb to the first one you see (I did but was lucky) - do find a specialist to appraise your prosepctive purchase if you want to avoid being caught out.

>> Edited by beano1197 on Thursday 21st November 17:42

Bumcrack

Original Poster:

977 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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I would like a drop top,if it doesn't leak when it rains. Has there be reports of leaking roofs on the later cars.
What's are the service interals on TVR's by the way?
So you think the Cerbra has high running costs ?

>> Edited by Bumcrack on Thursday 21st November 18:25

keirangrogan

486 posts

281 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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Bumcrack said: I would like a drop top,if it doesn't leak when it rains. Has there be reports of leaking roofs on the later cars.
So you think the Cerbra has high running costs ?


All convertables leak, even my friends Audi TT leaks !

Servicing Costs on a Cerbera are much higher than that of a Griff OR Chimera

beano1197

20,854 posts

292 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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Bumcrack said: I would like a drop top,if it doesn't leak when it rains. Has there be reports of leaking roofs on the later cars.


Not especially, but there are a few known reasons why even Cerberas might let some water in.

My biggest gripe is getting a wet arm from winding the window down to see out (my Griff steams up pretty quickly!)



So you think the Cerbera has high running costs ?


All relative - so higher



>> Edited by beano1197 on Thursday 21st November 18:28

Griff2be

5,103 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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Bumcrack said: I would like a drop top,if it doesn't leak when it rains. Has there be reports of leaking roofs on the later cars.
What's are the service interals on TVR's by the way?
So you think the Cerbra has high running costs ?

>> Edited by Bumcrack on Thursday 21st November 18:25


Its CERBERA not Cerbra. Once is a typo and forgiven. Twice is careless. Three strikes and you're out!

dai capp

1,641 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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Both Griffs and Chims are pretty reliable now as most of the problems have been ironed out. Beano makes a good point, make sure blower and all the vents are working otherwise they steam up pretty quick and the roof line leaves you with a wet arm if you have to have the window down. (It does on the Griff anyway)

There's loads of space in the boot on both cars for the weekend away and shopping (you can even get golf clubs in the boot of a Chim ) and servicing at an independent will set you back between £350 and £450 depending on whether it's a 6 or 12 thousand miler.

You'll get a good Griff or Chim for £20 to £23 especially at this time of year...

Incidenty Beano, I had the same problem as you recently... RainX make an anti mist product for the interior of the glass and it works a treat!

Cheers

DC

simpo one

89,629 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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'I would like a drop top'

Good job we stopped you getting a Cerbie then eh?

'Has there be reports of leaking roofs on the later cars.'

You can get water ingress, usually from poor seals around bulkhead holes, or bad alignment between windows and rubbers. If you know what to keep an eye on, you should be OK.

'What's are the service interals on TVR's by the way?'

6,000 miles or once a year.

'So you think the Cerbra has high running costs ?'

I don't have one so can't be too definite, but the engine seems to cost more to fix if you get problems. Having said that, there are good independents around now so you don't have to pay dealer money. That said, if you want opentop motoring (like me) then the Cerbie's not an option.

So you're looking at either Griffith or Chimaera - and all you need to know about those is already on PH if you search. Each side has its enthusiasts, as you may notice by the current bunfight! But the choice is up to you, so get a Griffith (the all-time classic and definitve TVR!!!) On behalf of all PHers I wish you a happy entry into the unique world of TVR!

Roy C

4,202 posts

301 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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Before you decide which TVR you want on looks alone, get yourself down to a dealer/retailer and try some. You might like the way it looks, but you need to see if you like the driving experience. You'll probably be smitten, but you will understand the real differences between the models and come away with a clearer idea of what you want. Good luck.

>> Edited by Roy C on Friday 22 November 07:53

pilot_ian

45 posts

282 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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Roy C said: Before you decide which TVR you want on looks alone, get yourself down to a dealer/retailer and try some. You might like the way it looks, but you need to see if you like the driving experience. You'll probably be smitten, but you will understand the real differences between the models and come away with a clearer idea of what you want. Good luck.

>> Edited by Roy C on Friday 22 November 07:53


And then buy a Griffith

day_dreamer

1,324 posts

291 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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pilot_ian said:

Roy C said: Before you decide which TVR you want on looks alone, get yourself down to a dealer/retailer and try some. You might like the way it looks, but you need to see if you like the driving experience. You'll probably be smitten, but you will understand the real differences between the models and come away with a clearer idea of what you want. Good luck.

>> Edited by Roy C on Friday 22 November 07:53


And then buy a Griffith


Then trade it in for a Chim.


Malc

jellison

12,803 posts

294 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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Mine doesn't leak

bjwoods

5,018 posts

301 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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If you read this website, you might be forgiven for thinking that the only reason you buy a chim is to put golf clubs in the boot.

For the record - 2 sets of clubs fit in the boot of my griff (not the trolleys,motorised golf cart, gin dispensor,etc though)

All modern TVR's griff to date have considerbly more BOOT space than the majority of comparable sports cars.

I generally transport much more interesting things in my boot !?

B

>> Edited by bjwoods on Friday 22 November 12:12

noodles 4.2

574 posts

279 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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I wouldn't say that ALL convertibles leak. Your friend should get his TT looked at as I have owned two of these cars and thrashed across Europe in some SEVERE rain and never ever got wet or noticed any leaks in the TT at all after doing about 18k miles in them.

I have driven 2 Tuscans in the last week (good ones from a big dealer) and been dripped on by both. These small leaks won't put off a real enthusiast though and many would argue that they weren't designed to left in the rain for long periods.

Tony

d_drinks

1,426 posts

286 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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How about a Tuscan S6?? best of both worlds, hard top when you want i.e when its piSSing down roof off rear window out when it's sunny. There are two for sale on PH for 23-25k both sound well worth a look. The Tuscan is one of the best looking TVR's ever produced IMHO - not a pure as a Griff 500 though.........

keirangrogan

486 posts

281 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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jellison said: Mine doesn't leak


Give it time !!

Bumcrack

Original Poster:

977 posts

282 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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I can't be arsed with anything that leaks, no chance. The Honda S2000 doesn't leak , so it can be done.
There's a good review in Evo(old) about the Giff500.
I still like the idea of a CERBERA or more the idea of 0-100 in 9.1 secs. come on.
Has anyone got any links to reviews of TVR's
Thanks for the input by the way guys



>> Edited by Bumcrack on Friday 22 November 16:16

aorchard

78 posts

284 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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Bumcrack said: I can't be arsed with anything that leaks, no chance. The Honda S2000 doesn't leak , so it can be done.
There's a good review in Evo(old) about the Giff500.
I still like the idea of a CERBERA or more the idea of 0-100 in 9.1 secs. come on.
Has anyone got any links to reviews of TVR's
Thanks for the input by the way guys

>> Edited by Bumcrack on Friday 22 November 16:16


You can purchase from the TVR car club a very good book which has most of the reviews printed under one cover, can't remember what it's called.

Buy a Chim and no mine doesn't leak. (not biased at all )

www.tvrcc.com

apache

39,731 posts

301 months

Friday 22nd November 2002
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Bum.....kinda unfortunate nickname but what the hell, I'm a committed Griff fan but I feel you want something a bit less raw therefor no Griff or Chimaera, the T cars will be well expensive to service and you'd be bonkers not to have warranty cover too so that leads us swiftly to the Cerb (you already know you want one)4.2, 4.5 or S6, owners of each will endorse them so it's your call....have you seen Chrisoffs monster?