Rookie Marine kicked unconscious in the face by NCO!
Discussion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4475034.stm
Maybe nothing wrong with ritualistic intitiating fights amongst marines, it's all part of the "tough" training, but do you think the poor rookie deserved to be kicked unconscious in the face whilst kneeling on the ground by a non commissioned officer?
Maybe nothing wrong with ritualistic intitiating fights amongst marines, it's all part of the "tough" training, but do you think the poor rookie deserved to be kicked unconscious in the face whilst kneeling on the ground by a non commissioned officer?
OMG 
At first it looks like hard men playing hard men but after that it makes you wonder what the hell was going on. Naked as well
BBC said:
The fight appears to have been "directed" by two non-commissioned officers. One was dressed in a surgeon's outfit, the other dressed as a schoolgirl.
At first it looks like hard men playing hard men but after that it makes you wonder what the hell was going on. Naked as well
why did that story make me think of this 
You can't handle the truth!
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand at post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand at post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Full video here: http://astream.net/links/notw/joining_run_300.asx
Bruce Lee would have been proud of that kick!
>> Edited by john_p on Sunday 27th November 17:03
Bruce Lee would have been proud of that kick!
>> Edited by john_p on Sunday 27th November 17:03
ultimasimon said:
OMG
BBC said:
The fight appears to have been "directed" by two non-commissioned officers. One was dressed in a surgeon's outfit, the other dressed as a schoolgirl.
At first it looks like hard men playing hard men but after that it makes you wonder what the hell was going on. Naked as well
Bloody perculiar - some of them were dressed as women.
I have some relatives in the Marines / Commandos - and one was in 42 Commando. I'll have to have a word if I see him at Xmas...
Seems par for the course. Recruit tough men, train em to be tougher and tell them they're the toughest and you want them to play chess?
I was never a marine, but was in the infantry and para regt, and this sort of thing did happen (not with nurses outfits mind you, but then marines are in the navy really
I was never a marine, but was in the infantry and para regt, and this sort of thing did happen (not with nurses outfits mind you, but then marines are in the navy really
Probably not a rookie as he was already attatched to the 42!
Initial training is done in other locations, or was.
I would guess this was a letting off steam type thing that went a little over but not much actually. The kick was not probably meant to knock him unconsious.
I have more of a problem with the guys who videod it.
Initial training is done in other locations, or was.
I would guess this was a letting off steam type thing that went a little over but not much actually. The kick was not probably meant to knock him unconsious.
I have more of a problem with the guys who videod it.
ultimasimon said:
OMG
BBC said:
The fight appears to have been "directed" by two non-commissioned officers. One was dressed in a surgeon's outfit, the other dressed as a schoolgirl.
At first it looks like hard men playing hard men but after that it makes you wonder what the hell was going on. Naked as well
Fairly day to day stuff mate, it is wrong that it should be shown to civilians though
looks to me like the bloke in the surgeon's kit saw red and lost control. Acted like a w*nker and deserves all that's coming to him. As to the rest of it, it's all fairly silly, but harmless enough. See another man's willy is not a big deal. I'm reminded of story told by a friend formerly in 45 Commando of a presentation skills course where one bloke elected to speak on the merits of personal hygiene. One of his props turned out to be the primula cheese he had carefully inserted under his foreskin.
whoami said:
Probably not a rookie as he was already attatched to the 42!
I have more of a problem with the guys who videod it.
Then you sound as sub-normal as thewit who delivered the kick.
How do you think they get trained? By knitting?
Raf dugs right I think - we shouldn't have seen it because we dont' understand it.....
whoami said:
Probably not a rookie as he was already attatched to the 42!
I have more of a problem with the guys who videod it.
Then you sound as sub-normal as the
no what would be sub normal would be to send these young men to fight savages un prepared.
War is not nice. Train hard fight easy.
silverback mike said:
ahem.....I seem to recall a sport of naked drinking in Norway....ahem.....twas cold, but a laugh.
Never had my head kicked in by someone wearing a surgeon's uniform, or had a fight judged by someone in school girl outfit.
Well, you obvously weren't doing it right....
carrera2 said:
Probably not a rookie as he was already attatched to the 42!
I have more of a problem with the guys who videod it.
Then you sound as sub-normal as thewit who delivered the kick.
How do you think they get trained? By knitting?
Raf dugs right I think - we shouldn't have seen it because we dont' understand it.....
Don't understand it??
Enlighten me.
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