California Superbike School
California Superbike School
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hobo

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6,383 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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I am thinking of booking a days training with the above people for a month after I get the bike, and just wondered if anyone had been on the course before. If so, what did you think.

Superbike School said in an email:

As you are aware, we are a training school providing tuition on motorcycle cornering skills. We operate on various tracks throughout the UK, Europe and the Middle East and the skills we teach can be applied to road riding or on-track riding. Our office is based in Wellingborough, Northants.

We teach on track as it is the safest environment for our students and instructors, but our school is NOT a track day blast - it is a structured
set of cornering techniques which have been developed to instil cornering
confidence when riding a motorcycle. We cater for riders of all levels of experience - you just need to have passed your motorcycle test, that's all.
So don't worry about being last and bringing up the rear; it really doesn't matter as long as you're applying the techniques and increasing your cornering confidence!

The school consists of 4 levels and each level takes a full day to complete.
Every student is required to start at Level 1- it lays down the foundations of fundamental cornering techniques. Anyone who has passed their motorcycle test will feel comfortable completing this level - we will look after you every step of the way!

Once this Level is successfully completed the student can then move on to
the subsequent Levels in order, receiving a certificate along the way for
each successfully completed level. This Level is also acceptable for
obtaining your ACU racing licence.


Sound good to me

S2rr Kitty

11,876 posts

274 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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I've done levels 1 to 3.

After 21 years of riding & pretty stuck in a groove.

Improved my riding more in one day than 10 trackdays!

Go with an open mind & blank canvas (some people ignored the instructors & carried on doing what they always did??) For example: On level 1 you ride with no brakes in 3rd or 4th gear, this focusses you on your entry speed & gets you to connect with what you are doing & where you are on the track more visually, however, there were still people riding round as if to say "I can beat you into that corner on the brakes" wtf....??? but that was the minority, most people really take it seriously, it is NOT a trackday!

So yeah, Highly recommended!

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

286 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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How much does it cost? Tempted to do it myself

hobo

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6,383 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Price depends on where you do it.

Silverstone £299, Rockingham £349

You can also hire thier bikes for £199 per day (2006 R6's) + £500 refundable deposit (if you don't damage it), if you so wish.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

286 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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hobo said:
Price depends on where you do it.

Silverstone £299, Rockingham £349


Per day?!

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Mad Dave said:
hobo said:
Price depends on where you do it.

Silverstone £299, Rockingham £349


Per day?!
This is tuition, not a track day

I'd love to do it, but I don't really ride enough to justify the cash. Prefer just to do a few track days a year

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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If you do go on it then read 'A Twist of the Wrist' parts 1 and 2(better) written by Keith Code - their founder.

S2rr Kitty

11,876 posts

274 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Mad Dave said:
hobo said:
Price depends on where you do it.

Silverstone £299, Rockingham £349


Per day?!


Everyone always says that!! until you have been & experienced the format it seems like a lot of money.

The tuition is not as per a trackday where instructors float around & pick you up on the odd thing... it is very detailed classroom briefings based on the drills in the books.

If it wasn't worth the money then people would not go back & do further levels.

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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^^^^ Training is often expensive but it is the best performance upgrage you can get!



BTW hobo, if your R6 doesn't arrive until March are you going to be bikeless until then? You'll be very rusty come March.

And if it is anything like my R6, your first couple of weeks will be restricted to 5000rpm which only equated to 55mph on sixth. (Whether you should pay too much attention to that is another issue.)

hobo

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6,383 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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[quote=rsvmilly]BTW hobo, if your R6 doesn't arrive until March are you going to be bikeless until then? You'll be very rusty come March. [quote]
I was worried about this myself & hence why I am going to have additional lesson with the training school, on thier bikes, during February.

NAH

11,752 posts

253 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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I did the Rockingham Level 1 school last year - learned a lot, stuff that I have since tried in the Alps & the Pyrenees. Funnily enuf, they are right.

gr4

442 posts

275 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Re 'Twist of the Wrist', do the guys who have read them recommend buying both books, or just '2' ?
Thanks.

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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gr4 said:
Re 'Twist of the Wrist', do the guys who have read them recommend buying both books, or just '2' ?
Thanks.
I would say just 2.

The books are basically about balance whilst cornering. KC achieves this by a gentle rolling on of the throttle to shift weight from the front to the rear of the bike (which has a wider tyre). I've read the books and I even have the DVD (cheese-tastic mate) but I've never done the courses. Its one of the must-do things on my list. I'm sure Kitty can elaborate.

Mark_SV

3,824 posts

294 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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rsvmilly said:
I would say just 2.


So would I. In my opinion, 'Twist of the Wrist 2' and 'Motorcycle Roadcraft' are the two books worth reading. If you can learn from reading, then both are well worth it and compliment each other nicely.

I did California Superbike School quite soon after starting riding, possibly too soon. However, I'd agree with everything Kitty said. One CSS day is worth several track days

Based on my own experience, I'd highly recommend doing CSS level 1 on track plus 1-2 advanced days on road with a bike cop. That combo will generally make you 10x better and have 10x more fun too, both of which will last for the rest of riding career

>> Edited by Mark_SV on Thursday 1st December 22:41

NAH

11,752 posts

253 months

Thursday 8th December 2005
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You might also wanna consider the Bikesafe days run by the local plod. I did the West London one with the City & Met Police - well worth £40.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

286 months

Thursday 8th December 2005
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NAH said:
You might also wanna consider the Bikesafe days run by the local plod. I did the West London one with the City & Met Police - well worth £40.


Wiltshire one was free..