PAS help please
PAS help please
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bluebottle

Original Poster:

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Does anybody have any pics of the PAS pipe runs in the engine bay and a pic of the reservior location.
I have finally got all the bits to install it but havent seen one in a Griff to know where to run the pipeworks and where the hose clips should be.

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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I can take some over the weekend... I'm modifying the PAS on my car as the std reservoir position next to the plenum is silly - the fluid gets cooked.

bluebottle

Original Poster:

3,498 posts

269 months

Friday 2nd December 2005
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cheers dnb, would be much appreciated.
I am particularly interested in how the rack feeds are retained to avoid moving parts.

edited to add: is heat a problem with the PAS fluid then?

>> Edited by bluebottle on Friday 2nd December 00:45

wixer

373 posts

279 months

Friday 2nd December 2005
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Make a bracket and position the reservoir onto the front chassis cross member next to the coolant expansion tank, above the radiator. Don't think there is a real issue with the PAS fluid getting hot as it can be used as gearbox oil aswell. If you're really concerned, fit a small PAS oil cooler, they're widely fitted on a lot of cars, in can just be a piece of straight pipe in an area of flowing air. This may give you plumbing problems though.

seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Friday 2nd December 2005
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wixer said:
Make a bracket and position the reservoir onto the front chassis cross member next to the coolant expansion tank, above the radiator. Don't think there is a real issue with the PAS fluid getting hot as it can be used as gearbox oil aswell. If you're really concerned, fit a small PAS oil cooler, they're widely fitted on a lot of cars, in can just be a piece of straight pipe in an area of flowing air. This may give you plumbing problems though.
Mine got a bit messy on the Monster day at Snetterton, maybe had a little to much fluid in it

& Phil you will have mail in 5mins

VSP90

560 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd December 2005
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I fitted PAS on my Griff 500 this summer. I bought a complete kit which included the bracket that fits the resevoir on top of the engine. To check the instalation I looked at the Griff pages website and any under bonnet pictures I could find including cars for sale on PH. Well worth fitting in my opinion. It has tranformed my Griff and now my wife can drive me back from the pub!!

bluebottle

Original Poster:

3,498 posts

269 months

Friday 2nd December 2005
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I thought the PAS system is gravity charged, ie the reservior need to be above the pump?



>> Edited by bluebottle on Sunday 4th December 11:39

bluebottle

Original Poster:

3,498 posts

269 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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Can the reservior be located lower than the pump and if so, how do you fill the system?

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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can go below the pump...but don't.

PAS FLUID IS HIGHLY FLAMMABLE !!!!!!!!

don't put it on the cross member, when overheats, it squirts out of the top...onto the exhaust!



best above the pump, keep away from heat if possible. A/C cars have it above the water pump, later cars have it on the side of the plenum. both good places. don't know about others.

the reason pas gives probs on thrackdays is expansion. it gets MUCH hotter (as does everything) and there is much more swirl in the resevior. add to that the fact that dealers tend to overfill to be safe...i run mine at about a CM below level when warm on track.

andy

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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Mine used to manage to pour fluid all over the engine in the standard location on the plenum. It's made quite a mess and not helped reliability.

I've moved mine to the crossmember, but have taken several precautions so that any leaked fluid can't spray on the manifold. Most of the "leaks" I've had have come from the pot being over-filled, the fluid getting hot and coming out of the vent on the lid. I should get a cooling benefit from moving the PAS bottle and shielding it from the manifold. Not tested yet as I only finished it today, and now the MOT's run out...



bluebottle

Original Poster:

3,498 posts

269 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Sorry to drag this thread up again, but..

Is there anyone in the Bath area who has a Griff with PAS fitted that i can look at and take pictures of?
I am about to install a genuine TVR PAS kit, but i am worried about getting the pipe runs in a suitable location to avoid moving parts and very hot parts.

cheers


mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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bluebottle said:
Sorry to drag this thread up again, but..

Is there anyone in the Bath area who has a Griff with PAS fitted that i can look at and take pictures of?
I am about to install a genuine TVR PAS kit, but i am worried about getting the pipe runs in a suitable location to avoid moving parts and very hot parts.

cheers
I'm in the Forest of Dean,not quite Bath,but not exactly far away either.Bath is an easy drive to me.Your more than welcome to pop over for a drive if you like?

GarryM

1,113 posts

312 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Not entirely sure he has PAS but Tiny is in Bath. I'm sure he would be pleased to help if he has.

griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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mongoose said:

I'm in the Forest of Dean


Sorry, O/T - where in FOD? I live in Chepstow!

'My' route is the B-whatever-it-is Chepstow-Coleford-Monmouth and back down the Wye Valley

mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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griffter said:
mongoose said:

I'm in the Forest of Dean


Sorry, O/T - where in FOD? I live in Chepstow!

'My' route is the B-whatever-it-is Chepstow-Coleford-Monmouth and back down the Wye Valley
Hello Ben,i'm in Blakeney

bluebottle

Original Poster:

3,498 posts

269 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Thanks for the offer Mongoose.
Unless i get an offer a bit closer to home i may just take you up on that offer.

mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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bluebottle said:
Thanks for the offer Mongoose.
Unless i get an offer a bit closer to home i may just take you up on that offer.
No problem Hamish,just let me know as and when your ready