Nitrous Oxide Facts

Nitrous Oxide Facts

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jschwartz

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836 posts

272 months

Saturday 23rd November 2002
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Enough of the rumors, Here's some actual facts: I've been using nitrous oxide on all my cars on the street for 20 years. Even my Cadillac. There is no smell other than normal exhaust, You're confused with nitro-methane that Top Fuel dragsters use. I've never blown an engine with it. The key to no engine damage is having an adequate fuel system (a separate fuel pump/system just for the NOS). It does tend to wear the rings and bearings a little bit more. My 87 firebird had 87,000 miles of regular nitrous use with no engine repairs and ran perfectly when I sold it. My 455 Oldsmobile ran 16 years with a 225hp shot of nitrous on top of it's 550 hp, it now needs new rings and bearings, which you might need even without nitrous. My 1996 LT4 Corvette ran 10.80 in the 1/4 with a 150 hp shot (and got 26 mpg on the highway) after 66,000 miles and 150 drag strip runs it still ran perfect. You can select a system with very gentle power delivery, progressively or all at once. I found anything above 250 hp instant shot to be too violent for the tires. I won't be putting it on my Ultima GTR since 138 mph in the 1/4 mile is adequate. Which is due to the superior symetrical cylinder head ports on the gen3 LS6 small block chevy.

P.S. Nitrous Oxide Systems pioneered the use of pulsing solenoids and they've been available for years in the US. It's called a progessive controller and is an option on any kit



ultimasimon

9,646 posts

272 months

Saturday 23rd November 2002
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Here's another fact: Nitrous oxide makes you laugh; something these threads could do with from time to time

tuffer

8,900 posts

281 months

Saturday 23rd November 2002
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Some more facts and figures

Nitrous-oxide (N2O) was discovered by an Englishman named Joseph Priestly in 1772. The "laughing gas" he discovered is still used as an anesthetic today. During the Battle of Britain the Royal Air Force used N2O to boost the performance of the aircraft engines on their Spitfire interceptors to counter the German air threat. After the war some enterprising veterans experimented with nitrous on their hot-rods. Nitrous oxide gives more horsepower per dollar than any other performance modification you can make to your vehicle.

Nitrous oxide works so well because it is 33% oxygen compared to ordinary air, which is approximately 21% oxygen. Acting like a chemical supercharger, injecting nitrous oxide into an engine increased the amount of oxygen available to burn and thus the amount of power generated. Because nitrous is stored in liquid state it comes out of its tank cold. This increases the density of the intake air even further.

Injected nitrous into an engine without adding additional fuel will result in an ultra lean condition. This will quickly lead to detonation, which will melt pistons and blow head gaskets. Most nitrous systems consist of an adapter plate which sits between the throttle and the intake manifold. The adapter plate contains a gasoline jet and a nitrous jet, which are controlled by a pair of solenoid valves. When the valves open they spray a controlled mixture into the intake. The amount of horsepower generated is determined by the size of the jets. An arming switch turns the system on, and a wide open throttle switch under the gas pedal opens the valves for an instant boost at any speed or RPM.

vez

239 posts

272 months

Monday 25th November 2002
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UK medical grade desnt make you laugh, that agent has been removed....

However industrial grade does

mkoch1

486 posts

273 months

Monday 25th November 2002
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the only differnce between medical grade N2O and the stuff they sell at race shops is the sulfur content. NOS adds a small amount a sulfur to deter substance abuse. Medical grade is probably cheaper is you can get it.

keithl

12 posts

271 months

Wednesday 27th November 2002
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Your right Jswartz. My first introduction to cars running on Nitrous was at Maple Grove speedway in Reading PA. What I smelled must of been Nitro-Methane. My neighbors son installed a nitrous kit on his 99 Mustang Gt. Loves it, just spins the tires way to much. He had to have it, biggest bang for the buck.

canam-phil

495 posts

273 months

Thursday 28th November 2002
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vez said: UK medical grade desnt make you laugh, that agent has been removed....

However industrial grade does


Nitrous Oxide IS Laughing Gas. All my medical books say that. So how can they take out the "laugh"?


UltimaAnimal

65 posts

272 months

Thursday 28th November 2002
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A slight leakage of that stuff will kill you...period.
It has to be tightly controlled for anesthetic use alone.

canam-phil

495 posts

273 months

Thursday 28th November 2002
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UltimaAnimal said: A slight leakage of that stuff will kill you...period.
It has to be tightly controlled for anesthetic use alone.


Not altogether true... Nitrous Oxide is used for the maintenance of anaesthesia particularly in childbirth .. ouch... and is not particularly tightly controlled as it is often self administered, the gas is sold as Entonox or Equanox and contains 50-50% nitrous oxide and oxygen. Industrial gas is what it says, only nitrous oxide.

Prolonged exposure does have a recorded side effect of anaemia and possible depression of white cell count.

james

1,362 posts

298 months

Thursday 28th November 2002
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So why not just go for a shot of liquid oxygen then? You might need to up the amount of fuel you're putting in quite significantly increased amounts of fuel to stop it running lean though

If you got a leak, you'd just end up with a particularly clear head

canam-phil

495 posts

273 months

Thursday 28th November 2002
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james said: So why not just go for a shot of liquid oxygen then? You might need to up the amount of fuel you're putting in quite significantly increased amounts of fuel to stop it running lean though

If you got a leak, you'd just end up with a particularly clear head

By burning more fuel, higher cylinder pressures are created and this is where most of the additional power is realized. The "cooling affect" of the liquid Nitrous Oxide turning gaseous significantly reduces intake charge temperatures by approximately 60-75 Degrees F. (Oxygen would obviously do this as well) This create additional power. For every 10 Degrees F. reduction in intake charge temperature, a 1% increase in power will be realized. The intake temperature maybe drops 70 Degrees F, which would gain approximately 25 HP due to the cooling affect alone. The nitrogen that is released during the compression stroke performs an important role, it acts to control the combustion process which causes an increased cylinder pressures and more importantly the extra heat.

Oh, and pure oxygen can be dangerous... anyone remember Apollo? But that is the extreme.

>> Edited by canam-phil on Thursday 28th November 17:18

james

1,362 posts

298 months

Thursday 28th November 2002
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Oxygen on its own isn't dangerous. However, if there is anything combustible around, it'll burn a lot more ferociously in the presence of an increased oxygen content.

In the Apollo accident, it wasn't the oxygen that caught fire. It was the combustible material in the capsule that burned, and the pure oxygen atmosphere meant that it burned very ferociously.

canam-phil

495 posts

273 months

Friday 29th November 2002
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james said: Oxygen on its own isn't dangerous. However, if there is anything combustible around, it'll burn a lot more ferociously in the presence of an increased oxygen content.

In the Apollo accident, it wasn't the oxygen that caught fire. It was the combustible material in the capsule that burned, and the pure oxygen atmosphere meant that it burned very ferociously.


Exactly, and what is more combustible than the materials in cars if an oxygen line were to be fractured in an accident!!! That was my point.

james

1,362 posts

298 months

Friday 29th November 2002
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The trick is, not to have an accident