Radiator / Antifreeze questions
Radiator / Antifreeze questions
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UKBob

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16,277 posts

294 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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Ive been filling up the cerb with water all summer, the rad is quite full. Questions:

1) Whats the capacity of the radiator? Isnt it 8 litres++ (ish)?
2) If I use a syphon(sp) pype how much water am I likely to drain
3) I bought some 50/50 antifreeze today. Is it normal when winter sets in to drain all the water from the rad and make sure the mixture is strong enough?

t8rus

210 posts

288 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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you can get an anti freeze tester for about £2 from halfords to see if your mixture is ok or not? then you might not have to drain the system, just top it up.

carl_w

10,735 posts

287 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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UKBob said:
Ive been filling up the cerb with water all summer, the rad is quite full.
If it's taken all summer to fill up, I think you have a leak somewhere

UKBob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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carl_w said:
UKBob said:
Ive been filling up the cerb with water all summer, the rad is quite full.
If it's taken all summer to fill up, I think you have a leak somewhere
Ba dum tsh?

Someone must know how much water the radiator can take?

speed8

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Coolant Specification: 3 parts water to 1 part antifreeze.
Capacity 15 litres.

Personally I used a 30%-40% antifreeze mix as I sometimes had the car out overnight.

gbbird

5,197 posts

273 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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carl_w said:
UKBob said:
Ive been filling up the cerb with water all summer, the rad is quite full.
If it's taken all summer to fill up, I think you have a leak somewhere


Just what i thought. I used to have to top mine up weekly. There was indeed a leak and now all is fine.

If you buy the spec antifreeze as recommended by TVR, does it not say on teh bottle the concentration required for summer and for winter?

UKBob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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gbbird said:
carl_w said:
UKBob said:
Ive been filling up the cerb with water all summer, the rad is quite full.
If it's taken all summer to fill up, I think you have a leak somewhere


Just what i thought. I used to have to top mine up weekly. There was indeed a leak and now all is fine.

If you buy the spec antifreeze as recommended by TVR, does it not say on teh bottle the concentration required for summer and for winter?


I had my leak fixed earlier in the year, and my rad has only water in it. How do I drain the rad though, so I can fill it up with clean water and antifreeze?

speed8

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Either unhook the bottom pipe out the radiator to drain the whole system.
Or undo the bolt on the top drivers side of the rad and let it drain out. That should get a decent amount out (not sure how much). Probably a good idea to bleed it afterwards though so you don't get any airlocks anywhere.

Nickccc

1,682 posts

277 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Bob,
The Cerb has an aluminium engine; it needs coolant inhibiter at all times not just summer.
I would not use water alone as it has no protective qualities.
Nick.

BIG DUNC

1,925 posts

252 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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I would recomend filling with a 50/50 mixture. This gives best corrosion resistance. It also means if ever you have to top up with neat tap water in an emergency you have a bit of concentration in hand. If you have been topping up with water all summer, then drain approx half out and top up with neat antifreeze. If the capacity is 15 LTRS I would buy 2 drums ( 1 gallon or 4.5 LTRS ) of antifreeze. If any is left over then you can use it to top up any future leaks.
Pop over tonight if you like. Don't forget to bring A antifreeze and B Pizza!
Give us a phone to discuss if you like. If you are coming let me know, and I will get the garage heaters flashed up......

UKBob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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speed8 said:
Either unhook the bottom pipe out the radiator to drain the whole system. Or undo the bolt on the top drivers side of the rad and let it drain out. That should get a decent amount out (not sure how much). Probably a good idea to bleed it afterwards though so you don't get any airlocks anywhere.

Cheers. Is the bolt easy enough to find, and how do you 'bleed' the rad to prevent airlocks?
Nickccc said:
Bob,
The Cerb has an aluminium engine; it needs coolant inhibiter at all times not just summer.
Thanks Nick, will remember that for the future!

BIG DUNC said:
I would recomend filling with a 50/50 mixture. This gives best corrosion resistance. It also means if ever you have to top up with neat tap water in an emergency you have a bit of concentration in hand. If you have been topping up with water all summer, then drain approx half out and top up with neat antifreeze. If the capacity is 15 LTRS I would buy 2 drums ( 1 gallon or 4.5 LTRS ) of antifreeze. If any is left over then you can use it to top up any future leaks.
Pop over tonight if you like. Don't forget to bring A antifreeze and B Pizza!
Give us a phone to discuss if you like. If you are coming let me know, and I will get the garage heaters flashed up......
Ooooh, thanks! Email through your pizza order and I'll be round 8ish

speed8

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Bleeding here

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=196764&f=6&h=0&hw=bleed

Screw is near the power steering cap, you can't miss it.

BIG DUNC

1,925 posts

252 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Is this the screw that won't seal after?

speed8

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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The ones that wont seal are the ones on the water pipe under the front of the airbox.

BIG DUNC

1,925 posts

252 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Thanks. We will let you know how it went in the morning....

speed8

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Disregard my hand but the tap you can see on the water rail (middle left of picture) is the one that doesn't always seal after it gets opened.

UKBob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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speed8 said:
Disregard my hand but the tap you can see on the water rail (middle left of picture) is the one that doesn't always seal after it gets opened.


Is the tap the rusty looking thing, to the left of the knuckle of your thumb? Thanks for taking the pic! Dunc, do you know where to bleed the water out from, cause Im not entirely sure

speed8

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Yep, thats the one you don't want to touch.

BIG DUNC

1,925 posts

252 months

Tuesday 6th December 2005
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Just by draining out of the bolt at the top of the rad, we put at least as much in as came out, so I don't think we let any air in there. I havn't heard from Bob since he left, I assume you got home OK mate?
Do you have to take any covers off to get to the PAS cap and that bleed screw? If not where is it? ( I have not worked on a Cerbera before ). Since time was limited ( the poor man had to rush off to see his better half ) I did not want to start taking lots of covers off a car I wasn't familier with "just in case".

speed8

5,125 posts

302 months

Tuesday 6th December 2005
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The bleed screw in the pictures are up under the front of the airbox at the end of the rubber tubes (engine side rather than rad side).

The bolt you used is the one down near the PAS cap.