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ardoyne

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53 posts

274 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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Hello All,

I'm looking to take the plunge into the Ferrari world, but not sure whether to go for a used 360 or bite the bullet and get on the waiting list for a 430. Being new to Ferraris I was wondering what the PH Ferrari massif would describe as the main pros and cons. I don't mind waiting for a 430 if it is as good as a number of people have described to me. I have driven a 360, but not a 430 and feel you really need to drive a car for a little longer than a test drive to get a proper feel.

I know this is a bit of a generic question, but I'm looking to take a bit of a shortcut up the Ferrari learning curve with a little help from people who know a lot more than me!

Thanks in advance.

Bob

spidermanUK

808 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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"bite the bullet and get on the waiting list for a 430"

If by this you simply plan on wandering into your nearest Ferrari main dealer, slapping 5 grand on the desk and going home to wait until they call you to spec up your car........be prepared for between 2 and 3 years until your next showroom visit!
The alternative is to pay over list for someone else's choice of spec!
I put my deposit down in Nov 02, my car should be ready in the spring of next year!And it will be the 3rd new one I've bought from the same main dealer, who also does all my service work!
By all means, put your deposit down, but buy a 360 in the meantime!There are lots of bargains to be had at this time of year, see PH ads amongst others!
I've done over 6000 miles in my 360, and whilst I've enjoyed it, I haven't had the sense of occasion I get from my 355!

But lots of people have bought 360s and really love them, they are certainly much cheaper to run than the previous model, with the exception of their enormous appetite for rear tyres, 4000 miles in my case!

Jonny5

3,526 posts

291 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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430s are no longer commanding premiums, if you want one send me an email via profile

sarbs

264 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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Seen them advertised on thecarspeculator.com for just over list, altough I would still expect to pay premium on all new unused 430's. Best to buy off a private speculator who may need to cash in sooner than later!

ardoyne

Original Poster:

53 posts

274 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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spidermanUK said:
"bite the bullet and get on the waiting list for a 430"

If by this you simply plan on wandering into your nearest Ferrari main dealer, slapping 5 grand on the desk and going home to wait until they call you to spec up your car........be prepared for between 2 and 3 years until your next showroom visit!
The alternative is to pay over list for someone else's choice of spec!
I put my deposit down in Nov 02, my car should be ready in the spring of next year!And it will be the 3rd new one I've bought from the same main dealer, who also does all my service work!
By all means, put your deposit down, but buy a 360 in the meantime!There are lots of bargains to be had at this time of year, see PH ads amongst others!
I've done over 6000 miles in my 360, and whilst I've enjoyed it, I haven't had the sense of occasion I get from my 355!

But lots of people have bought 360s and really love them, they are certainly much cheaper to run than the previous model, with the exception of their enormous appetite for rear tyres, 4000 miles in my case!


I am prepared to wait if I decide it is the car I want, dealer estimated late 2007 delivery. I am not prepared to pay over list, plus I would want to spec the car.

Buying a 360 in the meantime is another option, however, I don't feel the need to have a Ferrari immediately, just trying to establish if it is worth the wait and additional cash for a 430.

Bob

ardoyne

Original Poster:

53 posts

274 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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Jonny5 said:

430s are no longer commanding premiums, if you want one send me an email via profile


Are you referring to new cars or "slightly" used? Surely with the 2-3 year wait the more impatient customers are still paying over the odds?

Bob

sarbs

264 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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If you can afford the extra cash you should wait for the 430, enjoy the process of choosing your own spec, test a few cars at dealers pleasure and find out what is needed and what isnt. Buying a used 360 will expose yourself to the chance that dont get a car that has been looked after properly, and is free from gremlins, getting a new 430 will allow you to iron out any gremlins under warranty.

Jonny5

3,526 posts

291 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Jonny5 said:

430s are no longer commanding premiums, if you want one send me an email via profile


Are you referring to new cars or "slightly" used? Surely with the 2-3 year wait the more impatient customers are still paying over the odds?

Bob[/quote]

New. Speak to Maranello's, plenty of cancelled orders. Someone on www . ferrarichat . co . uk spoke to a said dealer a couple of weeks ago and picked up the car on Friday

sarbs

264 posts

253 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Spoke to them, none available!

ardoyne

Original Poster:

53 posts

274 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Anybody owned both cars?

Bob

Jonny5

3,526 posts

291 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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dion at www.elmscollection.com will be able to help

Jonny5

3,526 posts

291 months

Wednesday 7th December 2005
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There is a tdf/beige 05/55 at Sevenoaks Maranello for list at the moment

ardoyne

Original Poster:

53 posts

274 months

Wednesday 5th July 2006
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Taken a while to get sorted out, but decided to bide my time waiting for a 430 on order and go for a 360 to tide me over in the meantime. Eventually settled on a spider which I pick up this weekend

Looking forward to what I hope will be a great experience.

Bob

gammaman

52 posts

234 months

Wednesday 5th July 2006
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For your guide, dealers are bidding list for 6mth/1yr cars and selling them @ list +5k to 10k!!