Any einsteins in the house...
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...cos this is hurting my tiny little mind..
i read this the other day and can kind of see the logic but if i mention it to anyone else i get blank looks and no-one seems to believe it and i cant explain it very well one way or t'other...so who better to ask than your goodselves..
1. We know speed of light takes 8 or so mins to reach Earth
2. We know Earth is in the Suns orbit, gravitational pull malarkey
3. We know nothing is faster than speed of light
Quite simply if the sun theoretically vanished, the last rays of light that it made the nanosecond before would still take the 8 mins or so to get to us. - yeah i get that but..
Would the Earth stay in the orbit it was in ie would the suns gravitational pull still effect the Earth or would it shoot off on its own new orbit not being held by the gravity anymore?
See if you think it wouldnt stay in orbit of something thats not there, which i kind of get,then surely no matter how you argue it, whether its based on speed or reaction time or whatever, gravity is quicker than the speed of light? Which doesnt agree with old Einstein...
anyone?
i read this the other day and can kind of see the logic but if i mention it to anyone else i get blank looks and no-one seems to believe it and i cant explain it very well one way or t'other...so who better to ask than your goodselves..
1. We know speed of light takes 8 or so mins to reach Earth
2. We know Earth is in the Suns orbit, gravitational pull malarkey
3. We know nothing is faster than speed of light
Quite simply if the sun theoretically vanished, the last rays of light that it made the nanosecond before would still take the 8 mins or so to get to us. - yeah i get that but..
Would the Earth stay in the orbit it was in ie would the suns gravitational pull still effect the Earth or would it shoot off on its own new orbit not being held by the gravity anymore?
See if you think it wouldnt stay in orbit of something thats not there, which i kind of get,then surely no matter how you argue it, whether its based on speed or reaction time or whatever, gravity is quicker than the speed of light? Which doesnt agree with old Einstein...
anyone?
The whole thing is a huge scam perpuated by the electricity companies.
www.zerobeat.net/qrp/darktheory.html
www.zerobeat.net/qrp/darktheory.html
Bear in mind it's common when considering these conumdrums to be stuck in a fixed view of speed. We consider speed as miles per hour, metres per second etc., but once you accept that the 'hour' or 'second' or whatever it is you're measuring speed by isn't absolute, then thinks start to make sense. So, when an hour is 'different' from the perspective of different viewers, the concept of miles per hour (or whatever) becomes different too....
Jeez, 40 minutes through 5th Gear and I'm replying to relativity posts
. Good tonight eh?
Jeez, 40 minutes through 5th Gear and I'm replying to relativity posts
. Good tonight eh?Some Exotic particles do travel faster than c now dont they?
And they've just cobbled together a gravity wave detector (using lasers) so mebe we'll confirm some theory sometime soon.
But as it stands now loss of the suns light and gravity should occure at about the same time, and then earth heads off in a tangental direction.
Wasnt that supposed to happen to the moon in 1999?
And they've just cobbled together a gravity wave detector (using lasers) so mebe we'll confirm some theory sometime soon.
But as it stands now loss of the suns light and gravity should occure at about the same time, and then earth heads off in a tangental direction.
Wasnt that supposed to happen to the moon in 1999?
Putting aside the probelm of what you did with the Sun's mass - if you take it away, the Earth will continue in a straight line to nowheresville, and all the other planets will stay going in their last direction as there's no force to make them travel in a curve.
So, it would suddenly get totally dark and tempertures would head towards absolute zero (buoyed up a bit by the molten iron core). I expect the Moon's orbit would go a bit funny as well.
There was an Arthur Clarke story which ended: 'And then the Sun went out.'
So, it would suddenly get totally dark and tempertures would head towards absolute zero (buoyed up a bit by the molten iron core). I expect the Moon's orbit would go a bit funny as well.
There was an Arthur Clarke story which ended: 'And then the Sun went out.'
danielson said:
3. We know nothing is faster than speed of light
anyone?
Actually that is not true any more the speed of light has been superseded.
There have been experiments using partical excelerators where scientist have increased the speed of light by x1.5, I will have to find the link somewere.
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