calling jamie beeston - eu domains

[billb]

Hello Jamie or others,

are u doing .eu domains and how do i go about getting one + how much?

[toolazytoreadeurid.eu]

thanks

[JamieBeeston]

Hi,

We will be offering .EU domains within the next month or so (going thru all the paperwork at present re: policy / pricing etc)

I dont know how much they are going to cost at present, but if you drop me a mail via my profile, I will happily let you know once its done.

J

[billb]

can i not do the sunrise procedure with ure lot then yet? not that i think anyone will nick my domain just want to make sure?

thanks

www.eurid.eu/en/registrant/howToGetEuDomainName/sunrise-procedure

[rico]

I'd recommend going through Jamie for domains but if he can't help you, Amenworld offer reserving of EU domains.

www.amenworld.com/static/index_1186.html

[_dobbo_]

Talk about a license to print money!

Network solutions want $99 dollars to pre-register a domain that you have a trademark for - an amount that is non-refundable should eurid decide you can't have the domain!

Then if you want to register non-trademarked names - that'll be $179, non-refundable in the event that your application is not approved by eurid.

Ouch.

any ideas on what your prices might be Jamie? Mail me through my profile if you prefer.

[JamieBeeston]

Sunrise is at cost from the Registry.

For registrations claiming Public Body Status : $49 (non refundable)
For registrations claiming Registered Trademarks: $59 (refund $40 for an application that is not reviewed by the registry)
For registrations claiming Other Prior Rights: $109 (refund $90 for an application that is not reviewed by the registry)

Those are our costs.. before any margin / Currency Conversion costs.

I expect the .eu will be > £5.49 < £9.99

need to see what discounts I can negotiate with the Registry.

Will keep you all updated as i get more from my developers.

J

[gopher]

_dobbo_ said:

Talk about a license to print money! Network solutions want $99 dollars to pre-register a domain that you have a trademark for - an amount that is non-refundable should eurid decide you can't have the domain! Then if you want to register non-trademarked names - that'll be $179, non-refundable in the event that your application is not approved by eurid. Ouch.

Peanuts I'm afraid - my firm charged $4k per name just to be in the top 10 of each of the 6 queues we have to hit the registry, again no guarantee it will be registered, and we sold out of all 60 places within an hour of announcing it, 1 client put the same name in 6 times, 1 for each queue, thats £24k in the hope of getting one name.

Cheers

Paul

[_dobbo_]

gopher said:

_dobbo_ said: Talk about a license to print money! Network solutions want $99 dollars to pre-register a domain that you have a trademark for - an amount that is non-refundable should eurid decide you can't have the domain! Then if you want to register non-trademarked names - that'll be $179, non-refundable in the event that your application is not approved by eurid. Ouch. Peanuts I'm afraid - my firm charged $4k per name just to be in the top 10 of each of the 6 queues we have to hit the registry, again no guarantee it will be registered, and we sold out of all 60 places within an hour of announcing it, 1 client put the same name in 6 times, 1 for each queue, thats £24k in the hope of getting one name. Cheers Paul

Not sure I understand that Paul - Let's say for instance Ted has trademarked "Pistonheads". As long as he gets there before Feb 7th, surely no-one else is going to get pistonheads.eu no matter how much money they throw at it? Or have I missed something?

[rico]

Bit of info about the .eu domain launch:

http://uk.webhostdir.com/news/articles/shownews.asp?

.EU Successfully Launched


Yesterday at 11:00, EURid opened its systems to receive applications for .eu domain names.

Some 800 Registrars in 25 countries are still sending in the applications they received from numerous candidate domain name holders all across the EU.

Totals
At 11:15:00, we had received 40.503 applications (> 40/second with peaks of >60/second).
At 12:00:00, we counted more than 80.000 applications (>23/second).
At 13:55:00, we counted 95.370 applications.
At 16:13:00, we counted 98.718 applications.
At 17:12:00, we counted 99.928 applications.
At 18:45:00, we counted 100.000 applications.

Breakdown at 17:12:00 CET
Total applications 99.928
Unique applications (only 1 application for the domain name) 78.565
Corresponding to
• geographical indications or denominations of origin 645
• public bodies 7.728
• national trade marks 70.090
• community or international trade marks 21.455

Top 3 by time of reception (milliseconds):
1. tickets.eu 11:00:01.699
2. job.eu 11:00:01.711
3. hotels.eu 11:00:01.712

Top 12 most requested domain names at 17:38 CET :
1. sex.eu 213
2. hotel.eu 112
3. travel.eu 90
4. jobs.eu 89
5. hotels.eu 86
6. casino 76
7. poker 72
8. golf 67
9. business 66
10. music 64
11. porn 63
12. shopping 63

Breakdown per country at 17:34 CET :
percentage of applications by applicants originating from
1. Germany 34.89%
2. France 12.76%
3. The Netherlands 12.39%
4. UK 10.14%
5. Belgium 5.85%
6. Sweden 4.80%
7. Italy 4.15%
8. Austria 3.05%

Please bear in mind that these applications are made under Sunrise I, the first phase of the .eu launch in which only public bodies and holders of prior rights (such as trade marks) can apply for registration.
An updated statement will follow tomorrow, 8 December.

About EURid
EURid is a not for profit organisation appointed by the European Commission to register and manage .eu domain names. EURid was founded on 8 April 2003, and has offices in Brussels, Stockholm, Pisa and Prague. The founding members, DNS BE, NIC SE and IIT CNR control the country domain names for Belgium, Sweden and Italy.

[_dobbo_]

Crazy... so that's 200+ people claiming a trademark on the word "sex"?

Even allowing for "sex" to be trademarked in every european state that's still a bit optimistic. Someone is making a fortune here, I suspect not eurid though.

Made all the more crazy by the fact that from what I can tell it's not first come first served, and there are still 2 months till the deadline.


>> Edited by _dobbo_ on Thursday 8th December 11:33

[gopher]

_dobbo_ said:

Not sure I understand that Paul - Let's say for instance Ted has trademarked "Pistonheads". As long as he gets there before Feb 7th, surely no-one else is going to get pistonheads.eu no matter how much money they throw at it? Or have I missed something?

I work in the technical side as opposed to the legalmarketing side but as I understand it Trademarks can be disputed, usually at huge cost, but that's not really the issue, it's more around IP rights and brand protection which may not be covered by trademark laws, which can again be fought legally but $24k is drop in the ocean compared to the cost taking this action.

E.g Microsoft has started using the brand name "live" but I do not believe this is trademarked, they have bought live.com (I hate to think how much that cost!) but I don't think this can be trademarked, however as all their future marketing around their on-line offerings is based on this "Brand" you can be assured that they have done everyting they could to get the name. (MS is not the company I was talking about).

Cheers

Paul

[_dobbo_]

Hi paul,

I understand what you are saying, but since eurid are not processing these on first come first served, then paying $4000 or pay $40 seems to me to offer the same chance of netting a result - whoever has what eurid consider to be the best claim to a name will get it.

[gopher]

Hi _dobbo_ I see what you're saying, and if that's the case then our sales people did a fantastic pitch! I do know from a technical perspective that the time the name was applied for is important according to EURID, could it be that where a prior right (not trademark) is claimed it is then on a first come, first served?

As I say not being in the marketing side I could be talking boswellox, but they(my co) charged a premium to be one of the first 60 to go through, and another, smaller, one to be in the top 100 of each queue, and the IP managers of some fairly large corps were more than happy to pay.

Cheers

Paul

[_dobbo_]

IN which case it's more likely me that's wrong and it is infact first come first served. Gulp, I haven't put ours in yet...