What's wrong with people?
What's wrong with people?
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blindswelledrat

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25,257 posts

262 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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On Wednesday my wife, with 2 year old daughter in tow, hit a sheet of ice on a bend and span off the road into/through a hedge. Understandably she was in a bit of a state but thankfully both of them were unhurt.
I was shocked and angered to find out that many cars drove round them despite it being obvious what had happend.
It took about 5 minutes for a lady on a school run to stop and help them both home despite making her own kids late for school. A big thank you to that woman.
To the other s I hope you crash in an inaccesible place and noone stops for you.

axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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What's wrong with people is that they have been systematically infantalised and emasculated by the state ( by which I mean the combined forces of the Government, the Media, the Legal System and the Police )

apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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I had a similar one myself, A 603 just before Moggerhanger, came round the bend going to Bedford at 0600 in the dark and was faced by a muppet on my side of the road overtaking a chain of oncoming cars, I had nowhere to go and crashed through the undergrowth and hedge into a ditch. All the cars passed, no one stopped (I was doing about 50 btw)

PhillT

2,489 posts

255 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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I had the exact same thing yesterday when I rolled into a tree. I was having trouble getting out - the car was on it's side and I couldn't get the door open as it was facing vertically upwards.
Was amazed to see two lorries drive past, slow down, look at me inside, and drive off! Miserable gits. Eventually a top bloke in a Mondeo stopped and gave me a hand.

Pulsatingstar

1,719 posts

278 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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When I rolled my car, I later got directed to a post on a forum (not here) where someone said they saw my car rolled over with the driver stuck inside it.

I was so annoyed but managed to resist signed up just to post "thanks for stopping to help me get out then".

lazyitus

19,931 posts

296 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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A bit off topic but a similar thing happened last Sunday...

There was a young dog running round, scared witless, wet and cold and with a tag on its neck. I got out of the car (Mrs L was driving) and tried to catch the dog, as it was obviously on the run.

I couldn't catch it, it just side stepped me and burnt off up the road. I got back in the car and the chase began.

In and out of the car about 4 times until I just broke into a sprint as the dog neared a main road.

Nobody else was bothered in trying to help this obviously distressed animal.

In the end, I cornered it in somebodies driveway and managed to pin him down. Knocked on the door and we rang the owner. She was in bits, sobbing because the dog had been lost for 3 hours.

I was astounded that of all the people this dog must have past in those hours, that nobody had caught it. Unbelievable.

Nobody is arsed.

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

276 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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axeman30 said:
What's wrong with people is that they have been systematically infantalised and emasculated by the state ( by which I mean the combined forces of the Government, the Media, the Legal System and the Police )


I agree with that, but I always stop and ask if I can help, A car span off of the A130 up the grass banking and into a layby. I was some way behind it but still pulled up and asked if the girl was ok. Turns out she was on her phone and during the spins, about 5 or 6. had pi**ed herself. Sorted it out, called her boyfriend and checked the car out. She was soon on her way.

20mins out my way, not a big deal really.

simpo two

92,937 posts

295 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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It's like the test where they put a small girl (actress) on a street corner pretending to cry. Many people ignored her - but then they'd have been up on paedophile charges if they'd spoken to her, so they walk on by. Such is the world now.

tomtom

4,265 posts

260 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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As I was leaving the M1 last Sunday, I hit the end of the slip road, pulled up at the roundabout and noticed a bit of a smash on the side of the road where I was headed. Looked like a pink Corsa had gone into a lamp-post and the following car had rear ended the pink. I was contemplating pulling over when I noticed an X5 and a Cayenne had already done so.

Mob-related, or civil-minded Chelsea tractor drivers?

edit: The story of that young lass in Oxford pulling over to see what the problem was, then being raped and stabbed, probably doesn't encourage people to go out of their way for others.

>> Edited by tomtom on Friday 9th December 10:43

off_again

13,917 posts

264 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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A bit off topic but a little relevant though. A friend of mine a few years ago spotted an old woman on the pavement a little upset. So he stops the car to check what is going on. Turns out she has been hassled by some local scrotes.... she points in the general direction and friend jumps back in the car... Well, things escallate quickly now.

Off we go after these scrotes - quite what we will do I dont know, but hey in for a penny as they say. Scrotes have seen what is going on and leg it across the local playing field / school field. Friend doesnt give a crap about his car so off he goes grass-tracking it...

Chasing scrotes while sliding across the field was very amusing. Scotes completely soil themselves (as you would expect seeing a car chasing them across a field with a crazed idiots in it!). Anyway, after a good 10 minutes they end up leaping through some brambles, down a ditch and into a very cold stream.... we leave them to it... Old woman is killing herself laughing at this point, and the caretaker spotted what was going on and is also killing himself too. Turns out he had some major problems with these kids and couldnt think of a way of getting around it. Seems that chasing them across a field worked - didnt see or hear from them for months...

See, some people do stop and "assist"..... just not quite in the way that you might expect!

staceyb

7,107 posts

254 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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Its the same with lost kids in shops. I was in Asda once and there was a little girl around 3 or 4 crying her eyes out cos she couldn't find her mum. There were loads of people around but no-one went over to comfort her. I went over and asked her what her name was and who she was looking for and would she like me to help her look. She just kind of nodded so I started to take her over to the customer service desk when this chav mother comes over and starts to scream at me about how I was trying to abduct her child. Eventually someone else came over to explain that I was taking the kid to the customer service desk. When you get that kind of response no wonder people don't help.

UKBob

16,277 posts

295 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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lazyitus said:
a young dog running round, scared witless

called the owner. She was in bits, sobbing because the dog had been lost for 3 hours.
Well done. Its people like you who make the world a better place

I tried chasing down a few dogs in the cerb, but the owners always gave me filthy looks

imp123

281 posts

274 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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simpo two said:
It's like the test where they put a small girl (actress) on a street corner pretending to cry. Many people ignored her - but then they'd have been up on paedophile charges if they'd spoken to her, so they walk on by. Such is the world now.


I agree with you that people ignore things happening like that but having you up on a peado charge is a little Daily Mail Hysterics is it not? and I'm not sure people think that will happen just that they are either selfish, generally don't think or feel awkward getting involved so plump for the easier option of not getting involved.

axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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staceyb said:
Its the same with lost kids in shops. I was in Asda once and there was a little girl around 3 or 4 crying her eyes out cos she couldn't find her mum. There were loads of people around but no-one went over to comfort her. I went over and asked her what her name was and who she was looking for and would she like me to help her look. She just kind of nodded so I started to take her over to the customer service desk when this chav mother comes over and starts to scream at me about how I was trying to abduct her child. Eventually someone else came over to explain that I was taking the kid to the customer service desk. When you get that kind of response no wonder people don't help.


That's the problem and these days it's a near social taboo for a man to talk to a child even if there related, let alone a stranger. It's a strange world the media and government are creating.

blindswelledrat

Original Poster:

25,257 posts

262 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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UKBob said:
lazyitus said:
a young dog running round, scared witless

called the owner. She was in bits, sobbing because the dog had been lost for 3 hours.
Well done. Its people like you who make the world a better place

I tried chasing down a few dogs in the cerb, but the owners always gave me filthy looks



it must be hell getting the bits out of the grill on those cars I'd imagine.

NiceCupOfTea

25,600 posts

281 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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imp123 said:
simpo two said:
It's like the test where they put a small girl (actress) on a street corner pretending to cry. Many people ignored her - but then they'd have been up on paedophile charges if they'd spoken to her, so they walk on by. Such is the world now.


I agree with you that people ignore things happening like that but having you up on a peado charge is a little Daily Mail Hysterics is it not? and I'm not sure people think that will happen just that they are either selfish, generally don't think or feel awkward getting involved so plump for the easier option of not getting involved.


I would have agreed with you a few days ago but recently discovered that a friend of a friend ended up with a kiddie porn charge hanging over his head for 18 months for a not too dissimilar incident. He was totally vindicated of course, but these things do happen, and is <i>exactly</i> why I would walk on by staceyb's small child in the supermarket. Sorry, but I can do without my life being ruined.

blindswelledrat

Original Poster:

25,257 posts

262 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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axeman30 said:
What's wrong with people is that they have been systematically infantalised and emasculated by the state ( by which I mean the combined forces of the Government, the Media, the Legal System and the Police )


I really really want to agree with you but have no idea what that all means

nuclearsquash

1,329 posts

292 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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Its something called "By-Stander Apathy", its a feeling that someone better able to help will help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_apathy this seems to give a good description.

>> Edited by nuclearsquash on Friday 9th December 11:10

axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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blindswelledrat said:
axeman30 said:
What's wrong with people is that they have been systematically infantalised and emasculated by the state ( by which I mean the combined forces of the Government, the Media, the Legal System and the Police )


I really really want to agree with you but have no idea what that all means


Roughly translates as......

"Nanny says shut up and do as your told."

( so whenever we find ourselves in a difficult challenging situation out first reaction is either to look for Nanny or assume that she will be along to sort it out...Nanny of course being the state apparatus )

>> Edited by axeman30 on Friday 9th December 11:11

Jaglover

46,811 posts

265 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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blindswelledrat said:
axeman30 said:
What's wrong with people is that they have been systematically infantalised and emasculated by the state ( by which I mean the combined forces of the Government, the Media, the Legal System and the Police )


I really really want to agree with you but have no idea what that all means


We have a culture now of relying on the 'nanny state' to look after us. We therefore abdicate our own personal responsibility and responsibility for our fellow citizens.

Edited to add: Timmy the Axe beat me by 1 minute.

>> Edited by Jaglover on Friday 9th December 11:13